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March 25, 2010 at 16:46 #285537
It will take a good horse, and a very good performance to beat Imperial Commander next season in the Gold Cup.
March 25, 2010 at 19:19 #285567Imperial Commander was impressive and I ammazed people are saying that the winner of next years Gold Cup will come from the RSA Chase I personally think they have to improve beyond recognition to win a Gold Cup any year let alone next year. Long Run has a massive engine but is a guesser as a jumper and Punchestowns has been found out big time at the highest level and the winner Weapons Amnesty (which I backed by the way!) just isnt quick enough to be a Gold Cup winner.
I have an opinion and I am entitled to it!!
March 25, 2010 at 19:34 #285568One thing is for sure…..the 2011 Gold Cup winner won’t come out of the 2010 field
What makes you so sure exactly? Cooldine was rated a reasonable winner of an RSA and couldn’t even place in a year when the favourite fell. Horses like Weapons Amnesty will have to improve 20 odd lbs to be involved. How can you be so sure they are capable of this?
I hadn’t considered any of the RSA runners either, possibly Weapons Amnesty but I can suggest five at least infront of him already for next years Gold Cup
AN SIORRAC
BIG BUCKS
JONCOL
SOMERSBY
WEIRD ALadd
PANDORAMA if the ground is heavy
SIZING EUROPE already a winner over 2 1/2 miles trainer ha considered stepping him up in distance next year
WHAT A FRIENDall listed in aphabetic order
March 25, 2010 at 19:51 #285569I hadn’t considered any of the RSA runners either, possibly Weapons Amnesty but I can suggest five at least infront of him already for next years Gold Cup
AN SIORRAC
BIG BUCKS
JONCOL
SOMERSBY
WEIRD ALWatch the way
Weapons Amnesty
bursts clear of One of Nicky Hendersons best ever horses (Long run) going to the last! He is a serious player in next years Gold Cup! An Siorrac hasn"t got a prayer!
March 25, 2010 at 19:53 #285570One thing is for sure…..the 2011 Gold Cup winner won’t come out of the 2010 field
It will take a good one to topple Imperial Commander,he won that very comfortably,trouble is he"s only 5/1,
Somersby
is 16"s from 20"s and
Weapons Amnesty
is between 8"s and 10"s! Mikael at 25"s??
Easter Hero
Golden Miller
Cottage Rake
Arkle
L’Escargo
Best Mate
Kauto StarThese are the only dual (or more) winners of The Gold Cup in the last 100 years. In all seriousness can anyone really imagine seeing Imperial Commander’s name added to that illustrious list?…I think not!
I rest my case, your honourMarch 25, 2010 at 19:56 #285571Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
March 25, 2010 at 19:57 #285572Watch the way
Weapons Amnesty
bursts clear of One of Nicky Hendersons best ever horses (Long run) going to the last!
It’s no secret how "highly" I rate Long Run about the same as Knockara Beau sounds fair
He is a serious player in next years Gold Cup!
As we say in Scotland, "Aye, That’ll be right!"
An Siorrac hasn"t got a prayer!
These are words you will live to regret, he will have won (at least one) Gold Cup by 2012
March 25, 2010 at 20:00 #285573Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Which Imperial Commander is that? Look through his record, he’s one of the least consistent winners of The Gold Cup in living memory…as someone else pointed out, if he’d been trained by Barney Curley both horse and trainer would have been warned off by now
March 25, 2010 at 20:01 #285574Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
I beg to differ.
Best Mate was a better Gold Cup winner than he is given credit for. To win three consectutive Gold Cups is no mean feat.
Imperial Commander is capable of winning another but I will be most surprised if he wins three.
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March 25, 2010 at 20:04 #285575Simple truth is that Best Mate’s form was not in the same league as the form of IC’s win the other day and I don’t think he was all that. I don’t care what his overall profile looks like – IC is a MONSTER.
March 25, 2010 at 20:12 #285579Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Imperial Commander Form Lines 1/146173/114/161-P251
Best Mate Form Lines 11221/1112/1221/111/211/12/P/FACT
March 25, 2010 at 20:14 #285581Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Imperial Commander Form Lines 1/146173/114/161-P251
Best Mate Form Lines 11221/1112/1221/111/211/12/P/FACT
If 11111111’s get you excited then good for you.
Personally I don’t select/rate horses based on the number of 1’s in their form.
March 25, 2010 at 20:17 #285583How do you like this form Cheltenham Specialist:
1111111
???
Whose form is this?
Imperial Commander when fresh.
March 25, 2010 at 20:23 #285586Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Imperial Commander Form Lines 1/146173/114/161-P251
Best Mate Form Lines 11221/1112/1221/111/211/12/P/FACT
If 11111111’s get you excited then good for you.
Personally I don’t select/rate horses based on the number of 1’s in their form.
Even if three of these are Gold Cups??????????????
It’s the percentage of times IC’s been out of the frame that makes me think he’ll be a very lowly rated Gold Cup winner in years to come, even Cool Dawn had a higher ratio of 1-2-3 placings to runs that IC
March 25, 2010 at 20:25 #285588Not IC’s fault that his trainer has raced him when not fresh enough.
March 25, 2010 at 20:34 #285591Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Which Imperial Commander is that? Look through his record, he’s one of the least consistent winners of The Gold Cup in living memory…as someone else pointed out, if he’d been trained by Barney Curley both horse and trainer would have been warned off by now
You fail to see the wood from the trees Cheltenham!Imperial Commanders whole career has been geared to winning the Cheltenham Gold Cup as a 9yo,some of us knew that!
March 25, 2010 at 20:37 #285593Best Mate is not in anything like the same class as Imperial Commander
FACT
Imperial Commander Form Lines 1/146173/114/161-P251
Best Mate Form Lines 11221/1112/1221/111/211/12/P/FACT
Nigel rates Imperial on a par with Best Mate,funnily enough!
FACT
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