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Personally I would be suprised if we see any winner from today win at the festival. I am willing to ignores todays racing but for reasons I cannot justify. What are others thoughts on today
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It is possible that Osana won because he was given too soft a lead but what are your reasons for ignoring the performance of Tidal Bay ? Looks a decent horse imo
When I was typing tought I should have said apart from tiadal bay but I am just lazy. That said would like to see his follow up against better opposition from todays racing as I would not take that as genuine form as good as it showed
Also seemed to be two different courses between old and new, dont think you can class the as same racecourse
Tidal Bay is the best novice chaser I’ve seen this season. He’s not a fancy jumper, but he’s a very safe, sensible jumper and he covers the ground between his fences very well. He really sticks his neck out, won going away today and had plenty left in the locker at the end by the looks of him. Impressive I thought.
I thought Joe Lively was impressive yesterday and he is twice the price of Tidal Bay.
Has any indication been given yet as to which of the big novice chases at the festival Tidal Bay will be aimed at? Thought he would be an Arkle prospect based on his first two runs, but he was stepped back up in trip today.
I think Tidal Bay is a difficult horse to assess. The high head carriage doesn’t look good and he isn’t a particularly fluent jumper but there are not too many defeats on his record and ground conditions do not seem to be a major problem. Presumably, he will have one more run before the Festival and that may give a clue as to which race he will be targeting – it would not surprise me if he ended up in the Arkle as he looks to jump better off a faster pace.
Tidal Bay is the best novice chaser I’ve seen this season. He’s not a fancy jumper, but he’s a very safe, sensible jumper and he covers the ground between his fences very well. He really sticks his neck out, won going away today and had plenty left in the locker at the end by the looks of him. Impressive I thought.
I couldn’t agree more. I thought the C4 crew were incredibly harsh on him. I think he’s a very clever jumper – he never looked like falling. Gold Medallist set a decent pace that generally seperates the good from the bad. The turn of foot he produced indicates that a drop back to two miles wouldn’t inconvenience him in the Arkle.
I’m looking forward to watching Gold Medallist in the future. A wonderful athlete.
Duc De Regniere ran a cracking race. Would be interesting if he met Tidal Bay in the SunAlliance over 3 miles. Couldn’t defeat Tidal Bay in races up to 2 1/2 miles, IMO.
going to say again there was nothing to take out of todays racing would bet with anyone that not one winner will follow up at the festival
I think Tidal Bay is something special. Had he been given any sort of ride he would have been unbeaten in two bumper starts for Alistair Charlton and has now won seven from nine for Howard Johnson, with the first defeat excusable as he raced too freely when six lengths behind Wichita Lineman on heavy ground (Osana back in fifth) and the other by just a neck in the Ballymore Properties (doesn’t have the same ring as ‘Sun Alliance Hurdle’). I know he’s made mistakes over fences to date but hasn’t fallen and his jumping will no doubt improve with experience. I’d favour the Arkle route but I expect his connections will give him entries in both (and perhaps the Ryanair Chase?) and wait until ground conditions are known (8-11f the official verdict is ‘good, good to soft in places’ on day one).
I would think that with Arcalis being ruled out for the season that Tidal Bay would go the Arkle route now. I think I’m right in saying that Johnson said that the horse "would go well in the Arkle, but we have Arcalis for that."
I thought he was economical yesterday and will get better. The only worry might be in a fast run Arkle, it’ll expose any weaknesses he may have in that area.
I wrote down "oppose at the Festival" about Tidal Bay after today. I don’t like the way he jumps- for me at Festival pace in March he’ll clobber at least one, which will be one too many. I don’t doubt he’s got a good engine, but unless he jumps much better next time I’ll be against him in the big ones.
I wrote down "oppose at the Festival" about Tidal Bay after today. I don’t like the way he jumps- for me at Festival pace in March he’ll clobber at least one, which will be one too many. I don’t doubt he’s got a good engine, but unless he jumps much better next time I’ll be against him in the big ones.
He didn’t ‘clobber one’ around Cheltenham yesterday when they went a decent pace. I still maintain that he’s a very clever jumper.
I like the horse and he obviously has some engine but he just doesnt look like a 100% natural jumper of a fence IMO.
I’ve backed him on all three occasions this season though and if he keeps this up I probably will in March but like I say, I’d just be a bit worried about him especially when they’re charging down to the notorious 2nd last…
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