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  • #1285485
    Jasolong
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    Since there are bookies doing NRNB all races I’m going to start my video analysis.
    I like to watch at least 3/4 races of note for majority of runners in nearly every race at the festival as there can be a lot of things to note that not always get taken into account.
    It generally works very well for me and helps me dig out some value.
    Does anyone else like to do video analysis?

    Those who struggle to find videos I would recommend sporting life who have a video of every single races over the last 7/8 years. You do have to have a skybet account to view these videos and are only viewable on PC/laptop, possibly tablet.

    #1285487
    Avatar photothejudge1
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    Since there are bookies doing NRNB all races I’m going to start my video analysis.
    I like to watch at least 3/4 races of note for majority of runners in nearly every race at the festival as there can be a lot of things to note that not always get taken into account.
    It generally works very well for me and helps me dig out some value.
    Does anyone else like to do video analysis?

    Those who struggle to find videos I would recommend sporting life who have a video of every single races over the last 7/8 years. You do have to have a skybet account to view these videos and are only viewable on PC/laptop, possibly tablet.

    I think you HAVE to do video analysis. How can you possibly come to a judgement about a race or a horse if you’ve never seen them run?

    I think it’s a good idea also to look at every horse in each race. So many punters will just bet on the favs, which are invariably overhyped and overbet.

    #1285495
    Jasolong
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    Since there are bookies doing NRNB all races I’m going to start my video analysis.
    I like to watch at least 3/4 races of note for majority of runners in nearly every race at the festival as there can be a lot of things to note that not always get taken into account.
    It generally works very well for me and helps me dig out some value.
    Does anyone else like to do video analysis?

    Those who struggle to find videos I would recommend sporting life who have a video of every single races over the last 7/8 years. You do have to have a skybet account to view these videos and are only viewable on PC/laptop, possibly tablet.

    I think you HAVE to do video analysis. How can you possibly come to a judgement about a race or a horse if you’ve never seen them run?

    I think it’s a good idea also to look at every horse in each race. So many punters will just bet on the favs, which are invariably overhyped and overbet.

    What I was trying to say is some people will remember their horses runs from memory but I like to re-watch and also go back to other races.
    Also some people like to study the form via stats and race reports and the form being franked

    #1285497
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Does anyone else like to do video analysis?

    LOL

    #1285606
    atthepost
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    £75 Lucky 15 with Betfair

    SUPREME- CHARLIE PARCS 7/1
    RSA- MIGHT BITE 11/2
    TRIUMPH- MERI DEVIE 9/1
    GOLD CUP- THISTLE CRACK 7/4

    :bye: :good:

    #1285615
    Avatar photocharlie87
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    Does anyone else like to do video analysis?

    hahahaha

    #1285656
    Avatar photoLemons68
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    Mares Hurdle
    Lifeboat Mona 20-1

    Champion Chase
    Traffic Fluide 33-1

    Triumph Hurdle
    Defi Du Seuil 14-1
    Soldier In Action 33-1

    Gold Cup
    Blaklion 33-1 and 150-1

    To win any race
    Battleford 10-1

    #1285679
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    £75 Lucky 15 with Betfair

    SUPREME- CHARLIE PARCS 7/1
    RSA- MIGHT BITE 11/2
    TRIUMPH- MERI DEVIE 9/1
    GOLD CUP- THISTLE CRACK 7/4

    :bye: :good:

    Is that a £5 Lucky 15 totalling £75 or a £75 Lucky 15 totalling £1125?

    #1285713
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    An update from my earlier post, as I had edited it about a dozen times, and was starting to look messy.

    I could go “green” on Gold Cup right now, and almost there with Ryanair, thanks to Champagne West. I was already happy with my position on The Champion Hurdle………….but with Sutton Place getting re-introduced by Betfair :yahoo: it is now a completely green book for me. **Edit, Gold Cup is now a Green Book too.

    Supreme
    Jenkins 20’s & 25’s ew

    Arkle
    Ordinary World 50’s ew

    Ordinary World 120’s to 300’s
    Waiting Patiently 190’s

    Ultima Handicap
    Cause of Causes 33’s both win and ew
    Holywell 16’s and 20’s ew

    Champion Hurdle (Green Book)
    Brain Power 25’s and 33’s ew

    Petit Mouchoir 480’s to 490’s Laid 7.4 & 9.2’s
    Vroum Vroum Mag 42’s to 150’s Laid 17’s
    Wicklow Brave 260’s to 390’s
    Nichols Canyon 180’s to 230’s Laid 20’s
    Jezki 100’s to 290’s Laid 21’s to 30’s
    Ivan Grozny 40’s to 200’s Laid 65’s
    Ch’Tibello 320’s to 490’s Laid 48’s to 60’s
    Clyne 220’s to 310’s
    Sutton Place 190’s to 550’s Laid 40’s to 70’s
    Clondaw Warrior 1000’s
    Diakali 1000’s
    Gwafa 1000’s
    Mister Miyagi 1000’s

    Mares Hurdle
    Midnight Jazz 65’s to 70’s

    National Hunt Chase
    Tiger Roll 25’s ew

    Tiger Roll 32’s

    Neptune
    Battleford 90’s to 350’s

    RSA
    Its’afreebee 100’s to 400’s
    Tiger Roll 430’s to 480’s
    Nambour 640’s to 670’s
    Marinero 660’s to 1000’s

    Champion Chase
    Garde La Victoire 40’s ew

    Garde La Victoire 170’s to 180’s

    Cross Country
    Cantlow 10’s win

    Bumper
    Beyond The Clouds 60’s to 80’s

    JLT
    Its’afreebee 33’s ew

    Ryanair
    Empire of Dirt 40’s win

    Village Vic 70’s to 200’s
    More of That 110’s to 170’s
    Champagne West 120’s to 260’s Laid 24’s to 26’s
    Smad Place 150’s to 200’s
    Long House Hall 160’s to 480’s
    Saphir Du Rheu 210’s to 250’s
    Empire of Dirt 28’s to 29’s

    Stayers
    As stated earlier, made a mess of it, and though not a disaster financially, a total waste of time.

    The Romford Pele 33’s and 66’s ew

    Ptit Zig 40’s to 230’s
    The Romford Pele 80’s to 710’s

    Kim Muir
    Another Hero 22’s

    Doctor Harper 14’s win
    Another Hero 20’s ew

    Gold Cup (Green Book)
    Main betting race for me along with The National, and already in a good position this year thanks to Empire of Dirt. Good few have been bet and subsequently laid off, but I’ve kept those in, who still have an entry. The big winner for me in this book last year was Carlingford Lough, and laying that bet off, paid for Cheltenham last year. Ironically, he’s my biggest loser this time around. Main fancies were always Native River, Zabana, and Minella Rocco.

    Native River 33’s ew
    Minella Rocco 40’s ew
    Zabana 50’s ew

    Empire of Dirt 250’s to 1000’s Laid 27’s
    Zabana 50’s to 90’s
    More of That 120’s
    Many Clouds 210’s to 380’s Laid 34’s, 48’s to 55’s :cry:
    Irish Cavalier 250’s to 340’s
    Smad Place 150’s to 380’s
    Silviniaco Conti 230’s to 480’s
    Saphir Du Rheu 160’s to 1000’s
    Wounded Warrior 1000’s
    Sausalito Sunrise 800’s to 1000’s
    Taquin De Seuil 1000’s
    Champagne West 550’s to 1000’s Laid 22’s to 25’s
    Lord Windermere 1000’s
    Fine Rightly 680’s to 1000’s
    Blaklion 150’s
    Theatre Guide 1000’s

    Grand Annual
    Sizing Platinum 25’s ew

    Non Runners
    Battleford
    Castello Sforza
    Doesyourdogbite
    Fagan x 2 RSA

    Specials
    Native River Hennessy/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double 250-1
    More of That Ryanair/Grand National Double 500-1
    More of That Gold Cup/Grand National Double 500-1

    #1285839
    atthepost
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    £75 total so a £5 L15.

    Taken a risk on targets. I’m not that mad doing a bet over 1k 6 weeks before the festival.

    But have been nibbling since July and looking back through Ive easierly bet a grand. But the dangerous thing it doesn’t feel like I have. :-(

    #1285856
    Avatar photobotchy1
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    Quite a bit of uncertainty still in my book up to now. A few jabs to the face but nothing too serious apart from a heavy blow to the ribs with Valseur Lido at 33’s – 25’s which was softened a bit by Cue Card coming back into the GC picture. Overall about £100 in the bin

    Anyhow, added a few NRNB bets lately

    Brain Power CH win @ 12’s
    Moon Racer @ 33’s

    Monalee Neptune win @ 14’s

    Golden Doyen Pertemps win @ 20’s

    Old Guard Coral Cup win @ 33’s

    Western Ryder Bumper win @ 25′

    Rainbow Dreamer Fred Winter win @ 25’s

    The Storyteller Martin Pipe win @ 16’s

    Ordinary World Grand Annual win @ 26.0 on BF

    #1285965
    atthepost
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    33/1 presenting Percy for the pertemps. Always ridden to get placed so handicapper doesn’t smash him. Connections won race last year. Both qualifying runs have been very catching. Jockeys have given horse really easy time. Davy Russell to ride. 33/1ew is a good bet

    #1285974
    Avatar photobotchy1
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    33/1 presenting Percy for the pertemps. Always ridden to get placed so handicapper doesn’t smash him. Connections won race last year. Both qualifying runs have been very catching. Jockeys have given horse really easy time. Davy Russell to ride. 33/1ew is a good bet

    Watched the race also ATP. Certainly agree with you there and had a win bet @ 33’s also on him.

    Down to 16’s in a place now so that price wont be around much longer.

    #1285978
    Avatar photojoliff
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    £75 Lucky 15 with Betfair

    SUPREME- CHARLIE PARCS 7/1
    RSA- MIGHT BITE 11/2
    TRIUMPH- MERI DEVIE 9/1
    GOLD CUP- THISTLE CRACK 7/4

    :bye: :good:

    Is that a £5 Lucky 15 totalling £75 or a £75 Lucky 15 totalling £1125?

    I don’t think any bookies in their right mind would accept a £75 lucky 15 especially with some of those odds!

    #1285980
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Ultima Handicap
    Cause of Causes 33’s both win and ew
    Holywell 16’s and 20’s ew

    Champion Hurdle (Green Book)
    Brain Power 25’s and 33’s ew

    Petit Mouchoir 480’s to 490’s Laid 7.4 & 9.2’s
    ichols Canyon 180’s to 230’s Laid 20’s
    Jezki 100’s to 290’s Laid 21’s to 30’s
    Ivan Grozny 40’s to 200’s Laid 65’s
    Ch’Tibello 320’s to 490’s Laid 48’s to 60’s
    Clyne 220’s to 310’s
    Sutton Place 190’s to 550’s Laid 40’s to 70’s

    Ryanair
    Empire of Dirt 40’s win
    Village Vic 70’s to 200’s
    Champagne West 120’s to 260’s Laid 24’s to 26’s

    Native River 33’s ew
    Minella Rocco 40’s ew

    Empire of Dirt 250’s to 1000’s Laid 27’s
    Many Clouds 210’s to 380’s Laid 34’s, 48’s to 55’s :cry:
    Champagne West 550’s to 1000’s Laid 22’s to 25’s

    Specials
    Native River Hennessy/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double 250-1

    Some superb bets there, VtC. Your Champion Hurdle book is brilliant, very well done. Early bird gets the big prices.

    I stupidly had a poxy £4 on Sutton Place at 120. £4! His price was only going to go one way. Really really silly of me.

    #1286005
    rocky91
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    Auvergnat cross country.
    Ew 25/1
    Looked to be going well off a low weight behind the French horse and Cantlow last time out. Only his 2nd start over the discipline. And expect more to come. Half the price with most other books and well supported today.

    I went to back this last week at 20/1 but wasn’t surr if:
    a) he’d got up after running into the rails as a loose horse last week
    b) he’d recover from that nasty looking incident even if he was on
    c) if he would even be coming back for the Cross country

    If I hear he’s coming over, he’ll be in a few multis. Backed him last week so tracked him round and he was going beautifully behind the other French horse when unseating and off a low weight, looks a good value bet each way.

    He’s (Auvergnat) only a seven-year-old and should have a nice future at this game. He will have to go for the cross-country now at Cheltenham next month. He had a look there last week, and it was just unfortunate (unseated and then fell when loose) what happened then.”

    #1286064
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Thanks Zark :good:

    Really really happy with how it’s went so far. Slightly pissed that I didn’t green out on Ryanair when I had the chance with Champagne West (before being confirmed for Gold Cup), but considering how badly I did in The Ryanair last year, and the position that Champagne has got me to, with my Gold Cup Book, I have a bit of cheek complaining. I added Empire of Dirt yesterday to this market yesterday, he went out a fair bit, and that might give me a chance to make the book a bit more respectable, as I already have him at that 40’s. I still really want him to go Gold Cup though.

    Sutton Place is a funny one, and I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. Although the market suggests he’ll be going to Newbury, it would be a VERY big turnaround from the trainer. He was very definite about not going, and also non committal about Cheltenham. It would be an excellent result for me, were he to win at Newbury, but in all honesty, I’m 90% expecting him not to be declared today.

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