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- January 8, 2017 at 14:46 #1280821
Did tell myself I wasn’t going to bet until nrnb came in this season but that diddnt go too well.
Done now until nrnb comes out
In total.supreme
moon racer 16/1 12/1
Jenkins 25/1 14/1
Cilaos emery 12/1 nrnb
Saturnas 48.0
Riven light 78.0
Finians oscar 16/1Neptune
Saturnas 20/1
Death duty 16/1
Jenkins 28.0
Monalee 33/1 54.0
No comment 142.0
Bacardys 25/1
Invitation only 14/1
Blow by blow 25/1
Finians oscar 20/1
Cilaos emery 56.0Albert bartlett
Death duty 25/1
Monalee 25/1
Turcagua 25/1
Penhill 20/1
The story teller 33/1Mares novice
La bague au roi 20/1 12/1
The nipper 20/1
Augusta kate 10/1 8/1
Let’s dance 10/1
Airlea beach 9/2Arkle
Min 9/1 8/1
Altior 4/1
Don’t touch it 78.0Jlt
Yorkhill 6/1 13/2
Coney island 68.0
Bellshill 86.0
Blue et rouge 20/1
00 seven 182.0
Le prezien 188.0
Charbel 86.0
Buveur dair 14/1Rsa bellshill 14/1
Coney island 40/1 25/1
Blue et rouge 220.0
Gangster 240.0
A toi phil 25/1
OO seven 46.0 82.0
Champers on ice 33/1
Alpha des obeaux 9/1
A genie inabottle 25/1
Martello tower 96.0Bumper
Next destination 20/1
Ballyward 25/1
Carter mckay 25/14miler
Martello tower 16/1
Champers on ice 25/1
A genie inabottle 25/1Gold cup
Native river 33/1
Minella rocco 40/1Stayers hurdle
Vroum vroum mag 62.0 60.0 55.0
Kotkikova 68.0
Nicholls canyon 10/1
Jezki 18/1
Shaneshill 28.0
Arctic fire 360.0Ryanair
Valseur lido 25/1
God’s own 33/1
Djakadam 20/1
Sub lieutenant 20/1
Vaniteux 242.0Any race
Barters hill 14/1 (injured)
The new one 14/1
Battleford 12/1 10/1
Blow by blow 14/1
Invitation only 10/1
Identity thief 14/1
Shantou village 20/1
Buveur dair 9/1
Bellshill 8/1
Bacardys 12/1January 18, 2017 at 18:11 #1282633I can put a big line through my Yorkhill Champion Hurdle Bet, and I am not expecting to see his name in the entries for The Stayers.
That leaves me with these, and I will only add 2 or 3 more as the festival approaches, and I will wait for the final declarations.
Supreme, Consul De Thaix win 25-1
Arkle, Yorkhill win 9-1
Mares Hurdle, The Organist ew 66-1
Queen Mother, Uxizandre ew 40-1
Ryanair,Black Hercules ew 16-1
Gold Cup, Minella Rocco ew 40-1January 18, 2017 at 18:20 #1282635I will add First Lieutant for The Foxhunter should he fare well at Thurles tomorrow.
January 18, 2017 at 18:21 #1282636I will add First Lieutenant for The Foxhunter should he fare well at Thurles tomorrow.
January 18, 2017 at 18:47 #1282638Add him now and get a price!!
January 18, 2017 at 22:38 #1282670I will add First Lieutant for The Foxhunter should he fare well at Thurles tomorrow.
Hes ineligible for the Cheltenham foxhunters. As is Foxrock and On His Own
January 18, 2017 at 22:59 #1282675Did tell myself I wasn’t going to bet until nrnb came in this season but that diddnt go too well.
Done now until nrnb comes out
In total.supreme
moon racer 16/1 12/1
Jenkins 25/1 14/1
Cilaos emery 12/1 nrnb
Saturnas 48.0
Riven light 78.0
Finians oscar 16/1Neptune
Saturnas 20/1
Death duty 16/1
Jenkins 28.0
Monalee 33/1 54.0
No comment 142.0
Bacardys 25/1
Invitation only 14/1
Blow by blow 25/1
Finians oscar 20/1
Cilaos emery 56.0Albert bartlett
Death duty 25/1
Monalee 25/1
Turcagua 25/1
Penhill 20/1
The story teller 33/1Mares novice
La bague au roi 20/1 12/1
The nipper 20/1
Augusta kate 10/1 8/1
Let’s dance 10/1
Airlea beach 9/2Arkle
Min 9/1 8/1
Altior 4/1
Don’t touch it 78.0Jlt
Yorkhill 6/1 13/2
Coney island 68.0
Bellshill 86.0
Blue et rouge 20/1
00 seven 182.0
Le prezien 188.0
Charbel 86.0
Buveur dair 14/1Rsa bellshill 14/1
Coney island 40/1 25/1
Blue et rouge 220.0
Gangster 240.0
A toi phil 25/1
OO seven 46.0 82.0
Champers on ice 33/1
Alpha des obeaux 9/1
A genie inabottle 25/1
Martello tower 96.0Bumper
Next destination 20/1
Ballyward 25/1
Carter mckay 25/14miler
Martello tower 16/1
Champers on ice 25/1
A genie inabottle 25/1Gold cup
Native river 33/1
Minella rocco 40/1Stayers hurdle
Vroum vroum mag 62.0 60.0 55.0
Kotkikova 68.0
Nicholls canyon 10/1
Jezki 18/1
Shaneshill 28.0
Arctic fire 360.0Ryanair
Valseur lido 25/1
God’s own 33/1
Djakadam 20/1
Sub lieutenant 20/1
Vaniteux 242.0Any race
Barters hill 14/1 (injured)
The new one 14/1
Battleford 12/1 10/1
Blow by blow 14/1
Invitation only 10/1
Identity thief 14/1
Shantou village 20/1
Buveur dair 9/1
Bellshill 8/1
Bacardys 12/1So you’ve already had over 80 ante-post bets on Cheltenham?
January 19, 2017 at 07:42 #1282691Around that mark.
Added 2 more with cue card and djakadam gold cup.
Both 12/1 ewJanuary 19, 2017 at 08:34 #1282692So you’ve already had over 80 ante-post bets on Cheltenham?
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This surprises you? I have over 120 ante-post bets on Cheltenham (and counting).
January 19, 2017 at 09:53 #1282694The amount of antepost betting on here is crazy..despite some being on Thistlecrack at decent odds for the GC there are still so many imponderables regarding most other races meaning it’s very risky. I myself only have the one and will likely wait until the actual week before having more bets.
January 19, 2017 at 10:26 #1282698The amount of antepost betting on here is crazy..despite some being on Thistlecrack at decent odds for the GC there are still so many imponderables regarding most other races meaning it’s very risky. I myself only have the one and will likely wait until the actual week before having more bets.
I think the number of people willing to wait until the actual week is crazy (although granted, I spend more in the week than I do AP
). I accept that a lot of my AP bets will be dead come the Festival, but am confident my remaining bets are at a price that will yield a higher return than if I were to back the same horses that week.A lot of horses run once, twice or maybe three times before the Festival so I prefer to back horses throughout the season at a price with Cheltenham in mind, over backing them at shorter odds. So I didn’t back Finian’s Oscar at 13/8 for the Tolworth, I backed him at 14/1 for the Neptune. Easy to give past examples, so today’s example is Battleford. I think he is crying out for a trip but will I touch 6/5, no. But I have backed him at 30’s for the Albert Bartlet because I think that’s where he will end up.
It’s a risky game but one I have become far more proactive in in recent years because a lot of the prices during the week shorten past any point of value, it is a good fun and if managed well, it’s profitable.
January 19, 2017 at 10:50 #1282703If you can invest the time to study throughout the season and don’t mind if some bets go down then it can be profitable, however I can’t afford either the time and don’t like losing money if they don’t end up running so it’s not my cup of tea unfortunately! I wish you all the best with yours.
January 19, 2017 at 10:54 #1282704If you can invest the time to study throughout the season and don’t mind if some bets go down then it can be profitable, however I can’t afford either the time and don’t like losing money if they don’t end up running so it’s not my cup of tea unfortunately! I wish you all the best with yours.
Exactly Joliff – each to their own I say – different people, different strategies. different systems.
January 19, 2017 at 11:36 #1282707Yeah, I’d say each to their own as well, all part of the fun, as long as you don’t lose the plot.
Can totally see where you’re coming from Joliff, and it must look like madness to you if it’s not your thing. Once The World Hurdle entries are out, I’ll put my AP bets (so far), and my way of approaching it will be slightly different to others too, though Charlie, your Battleford example is very typical of how I bet Ante-Post during the year.
I love AP betting, and love my “mini books” on the The Champion Hurdle, Ryanair, Stayers, and Gold Cup, but if you lose the run of it (particularly with Cheltenham) it can be very costly. In 2015 I had a lumpy bet on Cause of Causes Ante-Post for The 4 Miler, and a decent lift on the Thursday from Call The Cops & The Package, but when I totted up everything at the end of the week it was a real eye opener. It was by far my worst Cheltenham ever, and most of the damage was done AP. I addressed this last year, and though the volume of bets is similar, the staking is a lot stricter.
I’m being more guarded this year with the handicaps, as I’m finally having to accept that having a horse at 10-1 on the day (with various other concessions) is better than having a 20-1 shot who has indeed taken in one of the other 7 possible engagements they had
January 19, 2017 at 12:29 #1282714Yeah, I’d say each to their own as well, all part of the fun, as long as you don’t lose the plot.
Can totally see where you’re coming from Joliff, and it must look like madness to you if it’s not your thing. Once The World Hurdle entries are out, I’ll put my AP bets (so far), and my way of approaching it will be slightly different to others too, though Charlie, your Battleford example is very typical of how I bet Ante-Post during the year.
I love AP betting, and love my “mini books” on the The Champion Hurdle, Ryanair, Stayers, and Gold Cup, but if you lose the run of it (particularly with Cheltenham) it can be very costly. In 2015 I had a lumpy bet on Cause of Causes Ante-Post for The 4 Miler, and a decent lift on the Thursday from Call The Cops & The Package, but when I totted up everything at the end of the week it was a real eye opener. It was by far my worst Cheltenham ever, and most of the damage was done AP. I addressed this last year, and though the volume of bets is similar, the staking is a lot stricter.
I’m being more guarded this year with the handicaps, as I’m finally having to accept that having a horse at 10-1 on the day (with various other concessions) is better than having a 20-1 shot who has indeed taken in one of the other 7 possible engagements they had

Sound advice this. I have to constantly be strict with myself with how much I stake.
January 19, 2017 at 12:59 #1282719Few firms going NRNB now-might have a look to see if there’s any value around-I’ve mentioned this in another thread but I think Kylemore Lough is a live outsider in the Ryanair as well as Aux Ptits Soins in the RSA. I will add these to my small but select AP portfolio!
January 19, 2017 at 13:59 #1282728You’ll no doubt end up with more winners than all of us Joliff lol
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