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  • #227489
    Anonymous
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    How did the best team not go through, Getzippy?

    Barcelona dominated possession at the Nou Camp.
    Chelsea played with a ten-man defence at the Nou Camp.
    Barcelona dominated possession at Stamford Bridge.
    Chelsea played with a ten-man defence at Stamford Bridge.
    Barcelona created chances at the Nou Camp.
    Chelsea had two chances on the counter-attack at the Nou Camp.
    Barcelona scored an away goal at Stamford Bridge.
    Chelsea scored at Stamford Bridge.
    Barcelona played with ten men at Stamford Bridge.
    Chelsea played with eleven men at Stamford Bridge.

    Chelsea were, in no uncertain terms, outclassed by Barcelona. That’s fact. I haven’t seen a Chelsea side dominated in such a way for a long, long time and their ‘ability’ to restrict their opponent’s opportunities in the second leg is neither here nor there. Had the referee not been called in to question – and let’s not forget that Abidal shouldn’t have been sent off and that Malouda, Drogba and Anelka could all have been punished for abismal (even by their low standards) diving – then there would be absolutely no argument that Barcelona deserved to go through. They got the one goal they needed and that, as they say, is all she wrote.

    #227583
    insomniac
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    Sorry equitrack but "…outclassed by Barcelona.", doesn’t ring true.
    If a team has over 60% of the possession and can only muster 1 shot to trouble Chelsea’s goalie (and that after 92 minutes), isn’t it just as true to say Chelsea’s defence/tactics outclassed Barcelona? Or doesn’t "defence" count?

    #227746
    Getzippy
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    Equitrack,

    All those "stats" you produced have a flip side.

    Barcelona had one shot on goal in the 2nd leg, does that make them a clinical finishing attacking team, or one incapable of breaching the Chelsea defence until the 93rd minute?

    Chelsea, IMHO had the better chances in BOTH legs.

    Your post sounds a bit anti-Chelsea to me.

    I’m all for offensive, free-flowing footy, but the teams that play in that manner are not always s

    uperior

    by virtue of their style (which, I believe, one poster in this thread has already highlighted)

    Unlucky you Blues.

    Zip

    #227753
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    You’re right, Getzippy, I can’t stand Chelsea, but that doesn’t prevent me from viewing any team’s performance objectively.

    Barcelona were, in every sense, the better side across the two legs and whether or not their dominance in possession amounted to one shot in injury time, what does it matter? They had one opportunity, following a period of complete control, and took it. Chelsea couldn’t manage it in the Nou Camp, so why do they come out of the tie more favourably than the eventual victors?

    The problem Barcelona have is that every player could play in every position and do more than an adequate job. Consequently they sometimes have trouble forming ‘coherent’ attacking moves for no other reason than everyone wants to be the hero – the number of times Iniesta (who is sensational, just to be clear) decided to run with the ball rather than make the sensible pass was incredible.

    They got in their own way – Chelsea just seem to be getting the credit for it.

    #227948
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    Have you considered the possibility that part of Chelsea’s tactics were to allow Barcelona to play the ball around at will as long as they did not enter Chelsea’s vulnerable zones leading to shots on goal?

    This tactic worked beautifully until the 93rd minute.

    And as for the Camp Nou leg….Chelsea had a few decent chances and should have scored, more so than Barcelona.

    Most people agree Chelsea were

    very

    unlucky and that Barcelona, for various reasons, were inferior over the 2 legs.

    Perhaps we should put this to a poll?

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    #228017
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    This tactic worked beautifully until the 93rd minute.

    Zip

    Therefore it didn’t work. :lol:

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    #228106
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    This tactic worked beautifully until the 93rd minute.

    Zip

    Therefore it didn’t work. :lol:

    You wag! :twisted: :P

    …and I mean that purely in the footballer’s totty sense.

    Zip

    #228542
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    Equitrack

    Like most dippers,your opinion is pretty worthless.

    If you think that a team that took until the 93rd minute to have a shot on target "dominated" a game, then you clearly havent a clue have you?

    #228599
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    At least us "dippers" have seen our team win a European Cup unlike you Rent Boys! Always next year i suppose. :roll: :wink:

    #228620
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    My opinion is worthless? Grow up, Clive.

    The fact of the matter is that had Chelsea not had a handful of penalty appeals turned down everyone would be praising Barcelona on a thoroughly deserved win. As it is, we have to put up with the same self-serving nonsense we were treated to during Mourinho’s reign.

    #228757
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    You talk complete garbage

    Just ok to ignore the "penalty appeals" as if they are somehow not part of the game (and you must be the only idiot who seriously thinks that only "one" was genuine). Conveniently ignore that at least one prevented a clear scoring chance

    And you really think that a team which created less chances over both legs "thoroughly" desrved to win do you?

    The tie was about even IMO. To claim otherwise is to be clearly sucked into to snactimonious rubbish and complete upthemselves drivel we have been served up by the catalans (a charmless club and supporters in my experince…but i digress). Passing around to no discernable purpose is NOT domination

    Barca’s big problem is that they cannot adapt. Man Utd will be well aware of that (as Jose was when we did them 3 years back)

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    Passing around to no discernable purpose is NOT domination

    It is jolly pretty though. I’m looking forward to the final.

    By the way, Clive, does the extra X on your name mean that you will be twice as pornographic as usual?

    #229069
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    No!

    #229156
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    Any team which loses a match/tie in the last kick of the game is always going to be considered unlucky, irrespective of how well they played in the previous 90 (or 180 mins). The way the tie panned out, either team could have gone through, it’s just that the way it ended was a bit unfortunate. It would have been better if, say, Barcelona had scored in the 70th minute and at least Chelsea would have had 20mins to try to qualify.

    IMO there was only one clear-cut stone-cold penalty which wasn’t given and that was the handball by Piqué from Anelka’s flick. That was a dreadful decision. The rest were not really as clear-cut and are ten-a-penny in any 90-min match. Having said that, the referee was poor and I believe UEFA have acknowledged that but that’s too late for Chelsea.

    Chelsea did have their chances in both legs though with Drogba missing great opportunities at both the Nou Camp & Stamford Bridge so in a way the referee is an easy target for Chelsea’s own failings, as is the way with most football teams now sadly.

    #229251
    Getzippy
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    That’s a well considered, objective reply, David – I’d pretty much go along with that.

    However, let the debate rage and rage ’till the end of time! :twisted:

    Zip

    #229265
    Onthesteal
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    Blundering refs and football purists aside – Chelsea’s game plan to stifle first and then create was superior to Barcelonas one dimensional style.

    There are many ways to win a football match and like Chelsea, Barcelona know but one. However, Chelsea’s method was far superior on the night but the better sides, or indeed, the most effective method doesn’t always prevail.

    The result may well of pleased these purists that seem to think the side that completes the most passes on the night should win but, that’s just their preference in how they’d like to see the game played. It means nothing.

    As a bitter and downtrodden Arsenal fan, how anyone can say Barca were the ‘better’ side is beyond me.

    #229293
    Avatar photoPompete
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    Blundering refs and football purists aside – Chelsea’s game plan to stifle first and then create was superior to Barcelonas one dimensional style.

    There are many ways to win a football match and like Chelsea, Barcelona know but one. However, Chelsea’s method was far superior on the night but the better sides, or indeed, the most effective method doesn’t always prevail.

    The result may well of pleased these purists that seem to think the side that completes the most passes on the night should win but, that’s just their preference in how they’d like to see the game played. It means nothing….how anyone can say Barca were the ‘better’ side is beyond me.

    An excellent post imv.

    I glad Chelsea lost mind….never met one of their (Nu) supporters who wasn’t a toss-potxx.

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