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- October 31, 2024 at 12:17 #1711257
Grey Dawning declared for it.
I would expect BMG to have been tuned up for it sharper than the Skelton horse.
French Dynamite is a very interesting horse at 8/1 and if there was 8 runners he’d be ann outstanding each way bet. I always think the race acts as an excellent barometer for the season.
October 31, 2024 at 12:51 #1711259Think Sam Brown will just be here to get tuned up, but the 66’s still tempting.
Almost bet Conflated during the week at double the odds, but didn’t do it sadly. Was certainly wanting bigger than 11-2.
I’ll decide over next 24 hours
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Conflated 11-2 R4
Sam Brown 50’s EWOctober 31, 2024 at 15:08 #1711268What a great feeling when The Charlie Hall comes round.
I’ll chance The Real Whacker to spring a bit of an upset at 16-1 ew though I am a big fan of Grey Dawning
October 31, 2024 at 15:43 #171127366’s tempting even though it’s only 2 places Vtc? I think that would be ballsy on the verge of stupid personally. Even if Grey Dawning was to be pulled.
Sam brown goes off the outsider of this field even with 5 runners and it’s still a huge stretch to believe he could finish in the top 2.
I’ll personally be surprised if he even gets round.
October 31, 2024 at 16:23 #1711279“Big price” about Conflated a couple of days ago was imo all about his chances of turning up. Now he is turning up 11/2 still looks very good. His 1 1/4 lengths second to Jonbon at Aintree is better form than Grey Dawning or Bravemansgame produced last season. Probably wouldn’t have been beaten that far by Fastorslow (when 2nd to Galopin Des Champs) in the Irish Gold Cup either – but for unseating at the last. Grey Dawning has improvement in him and Bravemansgame is more likely to be fit and be suited by the ground, so can understand them being shorter than Conflated in the betting… but not THAT much shorter.
That said, for me the top three should be even further clear of the others than they are now. Unless the ground is firmer than advertised French Dynamite looks extremely short. I’ve laid some 9/1. Flattered by beating an unfit Minella Indo last time and may not put it all in and / or jump as well if unable to lead. The Real Whacker seems sure to want to lead too. In my 100% book French Dynamite and The Real Whacker stand the exact same chance. TRW’s very best form isn’t far behind BMG, GD and C, trouble is you’ve got to go back some way for it… And is he a Cheltenham specialist? Stable are in good form though.
Hang In there isn’t without a chance of a place on his good handicap form. But you’d think all the top three in the betting would need to run below their bests for HIT to actually win it… And have to take into consideration his conditional jockey can’t claim 3 lbs… And Sam Brown needs to start now.
Value Is EverythingOctober 31, 2024 at 22:17 #1711300Conflated for me as well. 3-2-6-U might sound poor, but those races were genuine grade 1 races. He won’t face the same opposition here. 11/2 looks quite generous.
Conflated 11/2
November 1, 2024 at 16:46 #1711350Grey Dawning a non.
Was always likely given the forecast and with hindsight an ante post bet on something else was always the correct shout!
November 1, 2024 at 20:10 #1711376A small wager on
Hang In There 20/1
November 1, 2024 at 22:14 #1711398Hang In There for me at 20-1 too
November 2, 2024 at 08:55 #1711448The Real Whacker was a bit of a no show last season but was going well in Ireland last time out until unseating.
The more I know the less I understand.
November 2, 2024 at 14:15 #1711503I’d love to see Bravemansgame get his head in front again, but at the prices I’ll have a go on The Real Whacker.
November 2, 2024 at 14:39 #1711509The Nicholls stable form is terrible at the moment, not as terrible as the Mullins’ though.
I’ll take a chance on French Dynamite at 8/1.November 2, 2024 at 14:53 #1711511BMG is the class act , hope he is fit enough , I’ve also played French Dynamite who will def have fitness edge
November 2, 2024 at 15:12 #1711516WD winners
November 2, 2024 at 15:14 #1711517I imagine the Nicholls camp will be happy enough , de f looks like he’ll come on a bundle for that , could be e.W value for KG
November 2, 2024 at 15:17 #1711519Well RtB and Peter, great race. Sam Brown ran a stormer too
November 2, 2024 at 15:31 #1711524Well done winners, the Nicholls stable still searching for form. BMG only one length ahead of Sam Brown tells it all.
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