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  • #1228202
    Avatar photoespmadrid
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    Who the hell made those odds up?

    They should be quoted “with a run” as I wouldn’t take the odds of one or two of them being around in a years time.

    ....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.

    #1228204
    pilgarlic
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    ITV will also be sharing coverage of the Rugby Union 6 Nations with BBC. Racing on any Saturday clashing with this will almost certainly get booted out to ITV 4.

    The personnel involved seems a tough call. I doubt if any RUK types would be selected as most would frighten off the casual viewer. Some involvement for John Inverdale would not surprise me.

    I`ve an awkward feeling that we may get a Loose Women seguet launch of the Cheltenham festival with a handover from Janet Street Porter being deemed equine enough for most viewers

    #1228213
    stilvi
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    Odds

    Matt Chapman Eve
    Jeremy Kyle 5-2
    Oli Bell 5-2

    5/1 John Inverdale
    5/1 Mark Pougatch
    5/1 John Francome
    6/1 Derek Thompson
    6/1 Alastair Down
    6/1 Mike Cattermole
    8/1 Ed Chamberlain
    8/1 John Hunt
    8/1 Sean Boyce
    10/1 Tom Stanley
    10/1 Tom Segal
    10/1 Dave Nevison
    14/1 Lydia Hislop
    16/1 Kevin Blake
    16/1 John McCririck
    20/1 James Willoughby
    20/1 Steve Mellish
    20/1 Francesca Cumani
    25/1 Ant and Dec
    25/1 Michael Atherton
    25/1 Hayley Turner
    50/1

    Where are these odds taken from? Are they to be lead presenter?

    I think a few noughts are missing off one or two. Unless they are actually after a ventriloquist/mad professor then you wouldn’t want a free bet on Willoughby at 2,000,000/1.

    And the difference between Bell and Stanley? Bell has an irritating, snivelling voice that would befit a 14 year-old boarding schoolboy who had just masterminded the ‘best’ prank ever. Add in his ridiculous dress sense and mainstream television should really be a million miles away.

    Down and Cattermole? Down is a wordsmith, best used in (very) small doses who makes Worzel Gummidge look like a fashion icon. Cattermole is the absolute King Of Bland, one of the best fence sitters in the history of racing.

    #1228214
    steveh31
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    Odds

    Matt Chapman Eve
    Jeremy Kyle 5-2
    Oli Bell 5-2

    5/1 John Inverdale
    5/1 Mark Pougatch
    5/1 John Francome
    6/1 Derek Thompson
    6/1 Alastair Down
    6/1 Mike Cattermole
    8/1 Ed Chamberlain
    8/1 John Hunt
    8/1 Sean Boyce
    10/1 Tom Stanley
    10/1 Tom Segal
    10/1 Dave Nevison
    14/1 Lydia Hislop
    16/1 Kevin Blake
    16/1 John McCririck
    20/1 James Willoughby
    20/1 Steve Mellish
    20/1 Francesca Cumani
    25/1 Ant and Dec
    25/1 Michael Atherton
    25/1 Hayley Turner
    50/1

    Where are these odds taken from? Are they to be lead presenter?

    I think a few noughts are missing off one or two. Unless they are actually after a ventriloquist/mad professor then you wouldn’t want a free bet on Willoughby at 2,000,000/1.

    And the difference between Bell and Stanley? Bell has an irritating, snivelling voice that would befit a 14 year-old boarding schoolboy who had just masterminded the ‘best’ prank ever. Add in his ridiculous dress sense and mainstream television should really be a million miles away.

    Down and Cattermole? Down is a wordsmith, best used in (very) small doses who makes Worzel Gummidge look like a fashion icon. Cattermole is the absolute King Of Bland, one of the best fence sitters in the history of racing.

    Coral

    #1228215
    stilvi
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    Thanks, as I read it you win if your selection appears as a presenter or pundit on the first ITV show. So you would expect more than one winner.

    #1228219
    steveh31
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    I am surprised Tony Ennis isn’t on the list, I can only really think of Rishi Persad and Tony Ennis as ethnic racing presenters so I think if you can get some good odds on Tony Ennis might be worth a punt.

    #1228221
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    Odds

    Matt Chapman Eve
    Jeremy Kyle 5-2
    Oli Bell 5-2

    5/1 John Inverdale
    5/1 Mark Pougatch
    5/1 John Francome
    6/1 Derek Thompson
    6/1 Alastair Down
    6/1 Mike Cattermole
    8/1 Ed Chamberlain
    8/1 John Hunt
    8/1 Sean Boyce
    10/1 Tom Stanley
    10/1 Tom Segal
    10/1 Dave Nevison
    14/1 Lydia Hislop
    16/1 Kevin Blake
    16/1 John McCririck
    20/1 James Willoughby
    20/1 Steve Mellish
    20/1 Francesca Cumani
    25/1 Ant and Dec
    25/1 Michael Atherton
    25/1 Hayley Turner
    50/1

    And the difference between Bell and Stanley? Bell has an irritating, snivelling voice that would befit a 14 year-old boarding schoolboy who had just masterminded the ‘best’ prank ever. Add in his ridiculous dress sense and mainstream television should really be a million miles away.

    An accurate assessment of Bell, unfortunately this seems to appeal to broadcasters these days. Why else would he have such prominence on RUK? I also find him particularly irritating with his in depth interviews of connections at the track at expense of seeing the horses.

    I see Lydia Hislop was at this yesterday with Henderson & Mullins. Surely viewers want to concentrate on what is happening at the time and see the horses for the veterans chase rather than see a tedious interview with Willie Mullins about his Cheltenham horses, something that has been done a million times before, and at the expense of seeing and discussing the horses for the big race.

    Can’t see Tom Stanley getting a look in, no one knows him and he lacks experience. As for Nevison, surely there’s got to be several noughts missing off that price.

    #1228222
    steveh31
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    Due to the lack of ethnic and female presenters around as itv will want some form of equality I will say

    Oli Bell & Zoey Bird maybe Alex Hammond if they can persuade her to leave Sky – presenter

    Tony Ennis or Sean Boyce – stats if they can be persuaded to leave ATR

    Gareth Topham and David Fitzgerald as commentators.

    #1228232
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    Jeremy Kyle? WTF. This isn’t a serious possibility surely? The man is a joke, his programmes are a joke, is this seriously what we want for racing?

    #1228235
    TimJames
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    If Jeremy Kyle were to present I’d much prefer just listening to the Timeform radio commentary.

    #1228251
    Avatar photoPeter Poston’s Ghost
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    Does the team think that ITV will produce the programme themselves or contract it out to an independent company such as IMG/Highflyer/Sunset & Vine?
    I realise that ITV will have a big say in the personnel and style of the broadcast if one of the previous C4 companies were used then we should have a good idea of the presenting team?

    #1228255
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    I was kidding when I suggested Jeremy Kyle, Keith Lemon and Holly Willoughby as the presenting team but with ITV it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

    I think it’s odds on that we have at least one “non racing” presenter and with ITV’s obsession with Celebs and reality TV I have genuine concerns about next year’s coverage.

    As for an earlier post from Stilvi I am not looking for a return to the 1970s. I just want the focus of any new coverage to be the action on the course. We need presenters who will reflect the passion, drama and excitement of this wonderful sport and we need to make sure that viewers form bonds with the equine and human competitors that will make them want to tune in to see their favourites perform. I just don’t see this as ITV’s priority,

    #1228257
    wordfromthewise
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    Tony Ennis ? You can’t be serious! Utterly bland and totally without a sense of humour just like the other ATR course reporter Simon Mapletoft who is so determinedly straight laced and never ever says anything even remotely amusing.

    Am I the only one who smells a very dodgy rat on this forum when people post patronisingly about ‘ethnic’ presenters as if they are talking about some kinf of special needs group or sub class …..annoying and very offensive .

    #1228268
    steveh31
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    Tony Ennis ? You can’t be serious! Utterly bland and totally without a sense of humour just like the other ATR course reporter Simon Mapletoft who is so determinedly straight laced and never ever says anything even remotely amusing.

    Am I the only one who smells a very dodgy rat on this forum when people post patronisingly about ‘ethnic’ presenters as if they are talking about some kinf of special needs group or sub class …..annoying and very offensive .

    He maybe bland and boring and we know from his appearance on Get In he has no sense of humour but he is an ethnic minority and that gives him an extra chance of being picked as being part of the programme.

    Why is it a rat itv got taken to task for not having ethnic minorities in Midsomer Murders why is it that you can’t point out the obvious itv won’t pick a team of all white males and it will either be Persad or Ennis who get chosen to represent ethnics.

    Tough if you find it annoying and offensive it is the truth and I stand by the right to say it.

    #1228275
    Old Applejack
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    While your general point – that ITV will seek to put together a diverse team – is fine, your use of the word ‘ethnic’ as a noun is not.

    #1228280
    wasps41
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    Apparently Jeremy Kyle is also a racehorse owner with a bit of a punting problem in his early 20’s

    Please don’t take this as me promoting for any presenting position. I really can’t stand him or that show he presents.

    John Inverdale is a fantastic presenter imo and would love to see him take a role in any new presenting team

    #1228293
    wordfromthewise
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    While your general point – that ITV will seek to put together a diverse team – is fine, your use of the word ‘ethnic’ as a noun is not.

    Thanks for putting this so succinctly ….a discussion on ethnicity of presenters is totally irrelevant to this discussion and people like Steve who take the opportunity to shoehorn it in and suggest that ‘ethnics’ being represented is a fact and a truth are basically taking a racist position in the sense that they have an inappropriate fixation on an irrelevant aspect of a discussion using unenlightened dated and dehumanising terms .

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