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    Avatar photoMatron
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    Channel 4 are now going to cover Formula 1 – which is surprises me as I thought ITV would have got it. (10 live races.)

    As the races are on a Sunday this should not clash with the horse racing coverage.

    The practice sessions are going to be shown as well so, I wonder if the racing coverage will be shifted-over to More4?

    If this proves successful and lucrative for Channel 4 it makes you wonder if horse racing will be dumped for good.

    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a777855/formula-one-leaves-the-bbc-and-moves-to-channel-4-for-live-races-without-adverts/

    #1226656
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    Depending on the contract and the value to Channel 4 they will either complement both or they will say horse racing too much trouble for not enough viewers and let it go.

    #1226662
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    Qualifying sessions are usually held about 1pm on a Saturday so this could disrupt the racing coverage.

    #1226681
    LD73
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    That must have cost them quite a big chunk of change to secure those rights – looking at F1 2016 season there are loads of clashes with race qualifying on Saturdays (some not affected due to different time zones), so likely that racing will be bumped off the main channel?

    Australia GP is 18-20 March. Last day of Cheltenham Festival on 18 Mar
    Bahrain GP is 1-3 April. Lincoln is on 2 April
    Chinese GP is 15-17 April – 16 April is Scottish Grand National & Greenham St
    Russian GP is 29 Apr-1 May. Guineas weekend
    Spanish GP is 13-15. 13 May is Yorkshire Cup and 14 May is Lockinge St
    Monaco GP is 26-29 May. 26 May is Henry II St & Brigadier Gerard St
    Canadian GP 10-12 June. No major races
    European GP 17-19 June. Friday and Saturday of Royal Ascot
    Austrian GP 1-3 July. 2 July is Coral Eclipse & Lancashire Oaks
    British GP 8-10 July. Newmarket’s July meeting is 7-9 July, July Cup on 9th
    Hungarian GP 22-24 July. King George is on 23 July
    German GP 29-31 July. Friday-Saturday of Glorious Goodwood, 30 July is Nassau St & Stewards Cup
    Belgian GP 26-28 Aug. 27 Aug is Celebration Mile
    Italian GP 2-4 Sept. 3 Sept is Haydock’s Sprint Cup
    Singapore GP 16-18 Sept. 17 Sept is Ayr Gold Cup & Mill Reef St
    Malaysia GP 30 Sept-2 Oct. 1 Oct is Sun Chariot St plus Arc weekend
    Japanese GP 7-9 Oct. Newmarket’s Future Champions Weekend 7-8 Oct inc Fillies Mile, Dewhurst & Cesarewitch
    USA GP 21-23 Oct. Racing Post Trophy is on 22 Oct and Old Roan Chase on 23 Oct
    Mexican GP 28-30 Oct. Charlie Hall Chase is on 29 Oct
    Brazilian GP 11-13 Nov. Cheltenham’s Paddy Power 3 day meeting
    Abu Dhabi GP 25-27 Nov. Hennessy & Fighting Fifth on 26 Nov

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    In this digital age does it really matter if the racing is on C4 or More 4?

    90 odd percent of viewers can get both channels and if people want to watch the racing they still can – in truth I’m not sure how many casual or passing viewers C4 racing actually gets although I suspect it isn’t many and probably less than there would be on the, so called, two “main” channels.

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    In this digital age does it really matter if the racing is on C4 or More 4?

    90 odd percent of viewers can get both channels and if people want to watch the racing they still can – in truth I’m not sure how many casual or passing viewers C4 racing actually gets although I suspect it isn’t many and probably less than there would be on the, so called, two “main” channels.

    Would C4 think it financially viable if racing was only on More 4 Paul?
    If it is only one or two days then possibly, if it’s several then imo doubtful.

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    #1226688
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    It is amazing the amount people that stick channels 1-5 and will not venture elsewhere – especially, the older generation from what I gather.

    #1226689
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    Maybe C4 have splashed the cash for F1 now as it then gives them a ready made excuse for not securing a renewal for racing rights, which comes up again next year?

    #1226690
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    In this digital age does it really matter if the racing is on C4 or More 4?

    90 odd percent of viewers can get both channels and if people want to watch the racing they still can – in truth I’m not sure how many casual or passing viewers C4 racing actually gets although I suspect it isn’t many and probably less than there would be on the, so called, two “main” channels.

    That is always my thinking. But not the broadcasters’ way of thinking. A prime example is BBC with Murray at Wimbledon. For some reason they switch to show Murray on BBC 1 from 2. Not exactly sure why this is but can only think that they think they will gain more viewers on BBC 1 :unsure:

    #1226691
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    Slippery road for racing if we lose coverage and end up off of the 4 main stations, even C5 would be a poor reserve option. Racing needs to keep itself in the public eye otherwise we become a real minority sport (even more than now).

    #1226692
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    “That is always my thinking. But not the broadcasters’ way of thinking. A prime example is BBC with Murray at Wimbledon. For some reason they switch to show Murray on BBC 1 from 2. Not exactly sure why this is but can only think that they think they will gain more viewers on BBC 1 :unsure:

    They, do by switching channels they get higher ratings.

    #1226693
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    That is always my thinking. But not the broadcasters’ way of thinking. A prime example is BBC with Murray at Wimbledon. For some reason they switch to show Murray on BBC 1 from 2. Not exactly sure why this is but can only think that they think they will gain more viewers on BBC 1 :unsure:

    They, do by switching channels they get higher ratings.

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    Do they? And does it really matter to the Beeb if 4.5m watch Murray on 1 and 1.5m watch the 6pm News on 2 or 3m watch the News on 1 and 3m watch Murray on 2. They still have the same audience share.

    #1226695
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    The ratings increase to a much greater extent and therefore in their interests to switch a match involving Murray to BBC1.

    Wimbledon is a massive outlay for the BBC.

    #1226697
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    I can’t see why it does though. Surely everyone has a remote control to turn over to BBC2 if they want to watch.

    #1226698
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    In this digital age does it really matter if the racing is on C4 or More 4?

    It shouldn’t, but as Matron points out, whatever the draw a programme has, putting it on the ‘established’ channels results in a larger audience: it’s very strange and I for one have no truck with folk who moan which channel a freeview sport – or whatever – is on

    If I were the broadcasters I’d just advise those who, inanely, prefer watching something on BBC1 rather than BBC2, or C4 rather than More4 to simply use an infinitesimal bit of initiative and experiment with pressing a hitherto unusual number on their Remote and see what happens

    Furthermore, and it’s something I’ve banged on about here before: who cares when or where anything is broadcast, or what clashes with what. I’d recommend googling Video Recorder, Catch-Up and iPlayer, and then consider entering the 21st Century

    Anyway, for those that believe the possibility of C4 racing moving to More4 or disappearing altogether from Terrestrial (again who cares we are privileged to have ATR and RUK) spells the death knell for racing as we know it, may I offer an idea that might make you sleep easier at night

    If C4 do dump racing perhaps the BBC, now that they’ve disposed of their hideously expensive contract to show F1, will offer to broadcast horse racing for about 1% of the fee it cost them to cover car racing, and all will be right in the world

    Yep, the serial moaners on here who like to pick lots and lots of big holes in new-look C4 Racing will be able to do the same about new-look BBC Racing

    Nice rant that, Drone: Season’s Greetings All :yes:

    #1226699
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    Well, it does from what I am told.

    I don’t understand it either.

    #1226703
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    This was my argument about C4’s relatively poor viewing figures compared to the BBC. There do seem to be a large number of people who only watch BBC1. It doesn’t matter what event or programme is moved from the Beeb, the viewing figures always drop. Although I still have my suspicions that the figures aren’t worth the paper they’re written on as the sample is so small.

    Fully agree with your rant Drone. On the various threads in here C4, ATR and RUK all attract far more criticism than praise. Whoever takes the racing from C4 will attract the same fate.

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