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Reet, Workforce’s sire King’s Best is now dual purpose at best, his bloodlines will appeal to NH breeders more than flat. I would expect his stallion career to go something like Old Vic unless by some quirk of fate he sires a top class flat horse at 12f or less in his first two crops.
I respect you as a poster more than most Reet but your way off the mark. So You Think shouldn’t even be fav and no way will he cope with Nathaniel.
It doesn’t take a genius to work it out even if your eyes can’t see which horse is the better.
Workforce is the form key.
He is clearly best at 12 furlongs and Nathaniel beat him at that distance easier than So You think did at his beloved 10f.
Nathaniel has bags of speed, travels well and he gets weight at a time of the year when it hurts most.
Nathaniel should be favourite and will win with something in hand IMO.
Spoken like a one eyed amatuer form student,go in to bookmaking with that outlook and you wont last a month
You forgot to mention that Workforce threw away a lot of ground by hanging to the outside fence and that Rewilding broke down making it so much easier for Nathaniel 
I suggest you go back and look at the race only this time with both eyes open and your fingers in your ears.
If you watch the race instead of listening to what the commentator says you will notice that Nathaniel wandered from the rail to the centre of the course and finished up between the rail and the centre of the course. He ran up the straight like it was a slalom and he’d be lucky if he lost 1/2 a length less than Workforce did.
As far as Rewilding goes that was very sad and I don’t meant to speak ill of the dead but he didn’t appear travelling anywhere near as well as those in front although he did stay on well in his races we’ll never know.
This has the makings of a cracking renewal.
So You Think deserves favouritism on his performances this season at 10F and a solid 4th in the Arc. This race looks as if it will be almost as good as the Arc, So You Think will have to be at his very best on Saturday I think.
Nathanial is a facinating contender as the 3 year-olds have generally had the better of the older horses this season. He was a worthy winner of the King George, however he did have the run of the race that day after the farcical early pace. I get the feeling he may find a few of these too quick.
Cirrus Des Aigles is a very consistant performer and has place claims but I can’t have him winning, his 2nd to Byword with Famous Name 4L behind gives him a squeak as he was giving 4lb to that pair, but I get the feeling he is just below the very best G1 performers.
Snow Fairy’s form brings together SYT, Midday and Twice Over. Although Snow Fairy finished in front of SYT in the Arc the place should be reversed back over 10F. Midday has proved comfortably better that Snow Fairy when they have met so the theory goes Midday should be somewhere close to SYT.
Twice Over seems to reserve his best for the Autumn, he was quite clearly "wrong" when behind SYT at the Royal meeting, but has bounced back since. He got the better of Midday close home in the Juddmonte and reportedly worked better than Midday when they worked together the other week although HC said he was further forward in his preparation then. The general feeling after the Juddmonte is that Midday went slightly too soon and again should be close between that pair. The other contenders I think have a little bit to find if the others are at their peak.
If most of the main contenders run to their best we should get a real handle on the absolute ability of SYT, as the Aussie posters seem to think SYT may benefit from having two tough races back to back (I’m not convinced that the Arc is the best prep for the Champion), the Cecil pair in particular appear to have prepared especially for this and I would think will be ready to show their best, This will give SYT his toughest assignment over 10F in Europe so far in my opinion. This is a facinating race.
I respect you as a poster more than most Reet but your way off the mark. So You Think shouldn’t even be fav and no way will he cope with Nathaniel.
It doesn’t take a genius to work it out even if your eyes can’t see which horse is the better.
Workforce is the form key.
He is clearly best at 12 furlongs and Nathaniel beat him at that distance easier than So You think did at his beloved 10f.
Nathaniel has bags of speed, travels well and he gets weight at a time of the year when it hurts most.
Nathaniel should be favourite and will win with something in hand IMO.
Spoken like a one eyed amatuer form student,go in to bookmaking with that outlook and you wont last a month
You forgot to mention that Workforce threw away a lot of ground by hanging to the outside fence and that Rewilding broke down making it so much easier for Nathaniel I suggest you go back and look at the race only this time with both eyes open and your fingers in your ears.
If you watch the race instead of listening to what the commentator says you will notice that Nathaniel wandered from the rail to the centre of the course and finished up between the rail and the centre of the course. He ran up the straight like it was a slalom and he’d be lucky if he lost 1/2 a length less than Workforce did.
As far as Rewilding goes that was very sad and I don’t meant to speak ill of the dead but he didn’t appear travelling anywhere near as well as those in front although he did stay on well in his races we’ll never know.
Yes he did hang out but straightened up where as Workforce kept hanging,and as for Rewilding have a look at his stride a few strides before he breaks down,you can see he is under duress and not stretching out properly,so i wouldn’t read too much into that.
Midday has proved comfortably better that Snow Fairy when they have met so the theory goes Midday should be somewhere close to SYT.
I quite agree Kris Diesis. I know form never works out exactly as you like to think it will, but I think Midday always seems to handle Snow Fairy fairly comfortbaly. Yet for all the collateral form Midday is over 9.2 on Betfair. This race may well still cut up so surely that price is too big to ignore.
Does anyone have a theory on Midday and her getting to the front too soon? I think she has fabulous acceleration for a middle distance horse but she clearly idles/tires/whatever when left out in front alone.
Do you think Queally mis-times his runs or do you just think she is often travelling so well that she tanks herself there? I’m hoping that if Tom can hang on to her long enough that she may well have too much of a burst of speed for the rest of them.
…I said I’m hoping
Alan Lee in The Times yesterday, "Seamie Heffernan gave So You Think too much to do in the Arc".
Geez and he worked that one out all by himself
Someone should tell him the winner also gave him way too much to do as she did everything else in the race
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