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    GhostofTheFellow
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    Please if you get the chance watch TICKATEAL-unseated rider,maybe im talking through my pocket but would love your opinions.

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    Having watched it again I’d say it was nearer to ‘fell’ than ‘unseated rider’. The horse clouted the hurdle, went down on his knees and the jockey was propelled ‘over the top’. Under the circumstances he had very little chance of staying aboard.

    Rob

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    marble

    You may be right about the Lingfield race, though I haven’t seen it, but in the case of Tickateal, I can’t see how this can possibly be described as a ‘suspicious ride’.

    Rob

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    GhostofTheFellow
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    Watched it again-i was talking through my pocket would have been difficult to stay on.

    Thanks for the reply

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    Neil Watson
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    Was a bit like when Londonner which Henry Cecil had then got sent to Martin Pipes to go jumping and dumped Tom Scudamore out the side door at Kempton many moons ago.

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    Just an additional point in this race. There was a definite ‘unseated’ at the same flight on the previous circuit, and ironically it was the horse I’d backed, Mt Desert. The horse screwed left over the flight, canoned into another horse and Ewan Whillans was flung out the side. Under the circumstances, not a lot the jockey could do. However, the formbook comment says ‘stumbled on landing’ which, in my view, was not the case, or at least not the whole story.
    Tickateal is also noted as ‘stumbled on landing’, accurate in that case.

    Rob

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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Please guys lets not bring ourselves down to the level of the Saturday drunkard shouting "He jumped off it"

    I know this is not the case here but anyone who thinks for one minute jockeys deliberatly jump off horses need therapy

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    Wallace
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    There has only been one blatant case of a jockey deliberately jumping off a horse (not off) in recent years.

    #173684
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Way too dangerous thing to do and a jockey would need to be half daft. I am not saying it has never happened as I do know of one occasion when a certain jockey jumped off at the last… I won’t mention his name but he was Irish and couldn’t read and write and rode Night Nurse LOL :lol:

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    I thing "unseated" is a tad harsh.

    For the first couple of races, before the rain got into the ground, the ground was slippy and that is probably why the horse "stumbled".

    There had been drizzle on and off all morning with a couple of sharp showers. Certainly when I walked the course at about 12:30 it was good going but you could see there was the potential for horses slipping anywhere on the course.

    Once the heavier, more prolonged rain came and started getting into the ground, it wasn’t so dangerous.

    Had the same race been run later in the afternoon it’s quite possible Tikateal would have stayed on his feet.

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