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How much is this saying correct?
"Can’t quicken in the ground" usually associated with sticky conditions.
Noticed Cheltenham’s two days. Apart from the contraversial first race on friday (described in the Racing Post as "run at a searching gallop") every other race bar the first today has been won by a prominent runner.
When it is wet horses go through it but:
Are front runners suited by "sticky" conditions?Value Is EverythingThere are loads of oft used phrases in racing which have no basis in reality.
Starter(s) for ten –
‘He’s quickening up well’ – when, in matter of fact the whole field is slowing up and ‘he’ is slowing up less than the rest.
‘They’re going a good clip’ – the commentator, when thus describing, usually has no idea whatsoever how fast they are going.
There are loads of oft used phrases in racing which have no basis in reality.
Starter(s) for ten –
‘He’s quickening up well’ – when, in matter of fact the whole field is slowing up and ‘he’ is slowing up less than the rest.
Zarkava!!!! never quickened up? Think we covered this before and came to the conclusion that some horses do actually quicken up.
He can’t quicken on the ground is a cracker though………the fact he has mud up to his knees Mr. commentator might just have something to do with it………I ignore most commentators to be honest they are only seeing what you see and can influence you to such an extent you start to doubt yourself.
I put my theory to the test today. Prominent runners for sticky ground.
Backed Pablo Du Charmil and Shinrock Paddy today at 12/1 purely because they like to be somewhere near the pace.
Also had Diamond Harry (saver). Main bet in that race was the 50/1 shot given a soft lead with half a bet on the second.
Tatenen another prominent runner (did not back it) won but that was odds on.
Backed Kings Revenge 20/1 and Squadron, 3rd and 4th in the Greatwood, beaten by the two obvious ones.
One day (or three counting fri and sat) does not prove the theory but is promising.
Mark
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I think GhostOfTheFellow now has competition for TRF’s end-of-year award for aftertiming
I think GhostOfTheFellow now has competition for TRF’s end-of-year award for aftertiming
Woooooofffffff!I can see you are going to criticise everything I do from now on Equi.
Feel free. My post was not about bets, it was about sharing a possible edge with fellow trfers. Although I can supply anyone with proof of my wagers if needed. If you take a look at the first post it does suggest what I was going to do today. Every horse I mention is usually ridden up with the pace, just take a look at the form in the Racing Post.Mark
Value Is EverythingCongratulations Ginge. The way I look at it is: if he’s having a go at you he’s leaving me alone
Have I taken over from you Fist as the hate figure?Equitrack,
Why not tell me what you meant in the other thread and I might be able to change my opinion? Besides, what does what I think matter?
Mark
Value Is EverythingI’ve used your theory in the past when at the races when the weather is real bad and backed some rewarding EW bets even some big priced winners. Mainly it was when things seem to be going really wrong and hot pots werre getting stuffed because of the going being drastically bad……you get some fun out of it but that’s as far as it goes…no serious better would use it on a daily basis.
There are some crazy ways out there of picking winners though and some win massive amounts due to being stupid (not referring to you of course)……So don’t give a hoot about what others think do your own thing and as long as you get a turn why care? Or alternatively you could follow me and make a fortune
Or alternatively you could follow me and make a fortune
Trouble is Fist you normally dont tell us what you’ve backed till after the race
I’ve used your theory in the past when at the races when the weather is real bad and backed some rewarding EW bets even some big priced winners. Mainly it was when things seem to be going really wrong and hot pots werre getting stuffed because of the going being drastically bad……you get some fun out of it but that’s as far as it goes…no serious better would use it on a daily basis.
There are some crazy ways out there of picking winners though and some win massive amounts due to being stupid (not referring to you of course)……So don’t give a hoot about what others think do your own thing and as long as you get a turn why care? Or alternatively you could follow me and make a fortune
Too true. Look at Gingertipster. Tells us time and again that the only way to make money on horse racing is to continually find the value.
Agnes Haddock had her own way of doing things, now which of them is the most successful punter?
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:lol: Have I taken over from you Fist as the hate figure?
There was never any contest!
For all his faults, FoF never bored anyone enough for them to lose the will to live.:lol: Have I taken over from you Fist as the hate figure?
There was never any contest!
For all his faults, FoF never bored anyone enough for them to lose the will to live. Classic Reet, sorry about that. Not. Mark
Value Is EverythingIf you watch George Washington’s guineas he looks as if he quickens up and leaves the rest of the field for pace.. Analysis shows he just didn’t slow up as quickly as the others…
Horses normally quicken mid race, not at the end…
If you watch George Washington’s guineas he looks as if he quickens up and leaves the rest of the field for pace.. Analysis shows he just didn’t slow up as quickly as the others…
Horses normally quicken mid race, not at the end…
That is true. Harry Findlay made the same point regarding Denman before he won last March’s Gold Cup.
Only usually from a really slow pace will you get horses quickenning inside the final furlong.
Woooooofffffff!
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