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In light of the discussion taking place on the whip rules thread am I the only who’s concerned at the authorities regularly taking entries for this horse in 3m 5f+ Chases – at the end of which he nearly always collapses. One day he might not get up and think of the various headlines then – the Animal Aid "Raced To Death" headline will have come true and there’s absolutely no way the racing authorities could refute this.
I think it’s taking a big chance running him when it is known he is prone to collapsing. There seemed to be more than usual horses needing treatment at the end. I spoke to one of the Aintree vets yesterday and he said he thought the going had proved to be more "gluey" than it seemed so they were going that little bit faster initially and used up more energy. Quite honestly how can Butler’s Cabin jockey (usually AP) justify riding a hard finish when he knows the horse is probably going to collapse… he’s a very brave and talented horse – completing in 23 of his 24 races.
I’m just glad Gordon didn’t get his wish of Exotic Dancer running in the GN. Imagine having TWO horses dying on the run-in, plus two more wearing oxygen masks.
Actually, one of my favourite horses of all-time, Money Market, used to receive oxygen after races (he was tubed as well), and he came 4th I think in the GN.
i never knew that is butlers cabin prone to collapsing then? how often has this happened? i know he did on saturday and needed oxygen, comply or die apparently needed it too
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Actually, one of my favourite horses of all-time, Money Market, used to receive oxygen after races (he was tubed as well), and he came 4th I think in the GN.
Was Combs Ditch another needing such precautions?
Some may feel this is me jumping to Jonjo’s defnece but it is not, it’s purely common sense. If there were any risk to life or limb surely the course vet wouldnt pass the horse fit to run?
I suggest one should do further research before passing comment on this one.
Fist’s it’s the fact that he’s run in these long distance races and has a previous history of collapsing after the race that should be under investigation not whether the vet thinks the horse is fit to run before the race.
Fist’s it’s the fact that he’s run in these long distance races and has a previous history of collapsing after the race that should be under investigation not whether the vet thinks the horse is fit to run before the race.
Quite.
Geezus jumpin jahosaphine!!!!! The vets on ever course in the UK are well aware of the horses problem and he has been cleared to run. Oxygen must be kept ready and waiting incase of a repeat incident. FACT!!!!!!
It is apparantly not life threatening and the horse is in no danger whatsoever. What you think Jonjo is? some kind of idiot who would risk a horses life? The horse collapses all the time and 2 minutes later he’s fine. Many horses do but you never hear aout them as they are not in the limelight like he was when he won the 4 miler and The Irish National within weeks and collapsed after each of them.
In fact another horse collapsed in the same race as him (King’s something) and no one gave him a mention. Both were perfectly ok after getting a wash down with waterl
It’s fine discussing these things but stick to the facts and stop assuming things.
i never knew that is butlers cabin prone to collapsing then? how often has this happened? i know he did on saturday and needed oxygen, comply or die apparently needed it too
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He’s been doing it for years. It’s much the same as some people who faint and not dangerous.
Taaffe’s Kings Advocate is the horse you’re thinking of there Fists. There was a big gamble on him that day if I recall correctly and I think he finished 5th or 6th under Ruby. He did indeed collapse after the race like Jonjo’s horse.
He was off the track then until this January when he ran in a decent handicap at Leopardstown. I don’t know if his absence from racing was in anyway related to what happened him after the ’07 Irish National though.
viking Flagship,
I remember he collapsed after he won the four mile novice chase at Cheltenham a couple of years ago. It was the race that marked him out for these extreme trips.
I’m not sure if he’s had trouble elsewhere, but think it’s a fair comment. It’s not very encouraging to have him keeling over. I think his best achievements are behind him anyway.
What is this? An horse racing forum or an animal aid forum? Should posters really be allowed to give free publicity on here to the scum called animal aid.
It’s just showing that, as horse racing supporters the well being of the horse is of vital importance to us…..I think what has been established with this thread is to show that the problem that Butlers Cabin suffers from is not a life threatening one, but one that can show racing in a bad light and give ammunition to those who would like to ban the sport altogether.
thanks for the info, its good to hear its not life threating and that they are on hand with oxygen as and when needed, shows how much they care for their horses and us on here discussing it that we care about them too
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