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  • #6281
    stilvi
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    One for the oldies or at least someone with an old formbook. Am I correct in thinking he didn’t start racing until he was 7 or 8? If that was true anyone know the reason why?

    #135790
    moehat
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    I qualify for this cos I’m old – but do you mean Brown Jack?

    #135794
    stilvi
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    No, definitely the Irish horse of the 70’s.

    #135798
    Ugly Mare
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    hi stilvi,

    Brown Lad won his 4 starts as an 8 year old in 1974
    in 1975 he won the Lloyds Bank Hurdle now World Hurdle as a 9 year old

    cannot find any trace of him racing before 1974.

    #135802
    bluechariot
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    I remember Brown Lad 1966g trained by Jim Dreaper and owned by Mrs Peter Burrell.

    He won the stayers hurdle at Cheltenham in 1975 and the Irish National in the same year and 1976 ridden by Tommy Carberry. He also won another Irish National in 1978 under Ger Dowd.

    He was a late developer but I don’t know the reason why. In those days most of the Dreaper horse were late developing proper jumping types.
    I could be wrong but I am almost certain that Paddy Osborne trained him in his early days and won a 3 mile hurdle or two with him.

    #135805
    Venusian
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    As I recall, he was just very backward, and in those days "proper jumping people" used to give these sort of animals plenty of time. I believe the 1962 Grand National winner, Kilmore, wasn’t even broken in until he was 6.

    Incidentally, regarding Brown Jack, he actually ran on the flat as a 3-y-o.

    #135807
    stilvi
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    Thanks all – wish I had an old Timeform to check myself – they probably gave him an extensive assessment. I had a feeling he had won the old Sun Alliance Novices or whatever it was called then. I know horses were probably given more time in those days but starting at 8 suggests he may have had some problems. As I recall he raced until he was 12 or 13?

    #135816
    Ugly Mare
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    Yes you’re right, in 1974 he won the Sun Alliance Novice Hurdle then 2m 4f and the first running under that name, ridden by R. Barry trained by P. Osborne and won by 6 lengths.

    Funny looking at that, filling the next 4 places were horses ridden by :-
    R. Pitman
    D. Nicholson
    J J O’Neill
    M. Dickinson

    the good old days?

    I don’t know when Brown Lad retired, he was unplaced in the King George VI chase as an 11 year old in 1977.

    #135841
    Lyphard
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    Brown Lad won the Irish National 3 times, ’75, ’76 and ’78. He was also second in two Gold Cups in ’76 to Royal Frolic and ’78 to Midnight Court, in addition to his hurdle race wins at the Festival which have already been posted above.

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    ricky lake
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    I saw Brown lad winning all 3 of his nationals , he was a Fairyhouse specialist , but to my mind he had the assistance of the best NH pilot riding at the time , but a proper horse noetheless

    have fun

    Ricky

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    had the 1978 Gold Cup not been moved to the April meeting because of a freak snowstorm hitting Cheltenham and causing the abandonment of racing on the Friday Brown Lad would most likely have won it that year, he supposedly hated fast ground and it was admirable that he finished second in 2 Gold Cups on ground that he loathed…he started as joint favourite for the Gold Cup in 1979, but my book doesn’t say what happened to him…he’s not mentioned the following year.

    #135855
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    He almost Never won in 1975 but luckily they crammed his race in. The 3 day meeting was run over 2 days in some of the worst conditions ever.

    I saw Brown Lad win in the mud up to his knees at Cheltenham he was the Irish Banker of the meeting and I think 11/10 fav. He was one big horse I can tell you that much…not that I noticed he was a late starter to be honest but would imagine that’s why.

    As it was my first ever trip to Cheltenham I can remember him well without looking at any books….along with

    My first bet at the meeting was Aldaniti EW iwho finished 4th ….6 years before he won the National

    Royal Epic winner of his only previous race and ridden by Frank Mckenna (whover he was) beat Philominsky in a photo to win the triumph at 33/1

    Rag Trade fell at the last when clear and left Harry Bells Quick Reply to go on and win.

    Comedy of Error won his second Champion Hurdle beating Lanzarote in a very tough race.

    Brown Lad I remember as being a very big horse and probably that’s why he was late starter… he won very very easily and was very short I think about 11/10 fav.

    Ten Up won the Gold Cup easily beating Soothsayer and Bula,

    The last race ran at the meeting was won by Summerville ridden by Andy Turnell who got off Cuckolder at the last minute. He absolutely trotted up.

    Thats as much as I can remember except for the fact I went there with Harry Bells Jockey Donal Nolan and his crazy(in a fun sense) Irish brothers…they had lots of Irish friends who had come over with 2 horses on there minds Ten Up and their banker of the meeting Brown Lad who they all said would win the Gold Cup…. wasn’t to be but only because of that freak snow storm as our good friend pointed out….. what a good horse he was.

    Didn’t he have tendon trouble and was retired? Sure someone will know

    #135902
    Adrian
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    He did race until 13 when he was 3rd in Punchestown Chase (to Jack of Trumps), and in handicaps at Fairyhouse (won by Tarthistle) and Punchestown (won by The Vintner).

    #135929
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Wasn’t Jack of Trumps supposed to be a bit special and fell at Cheltenham? I am struggling to remember to be honest but the horse was Fav for some big race and something went wrong

    #135945
    moehat
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    I’d never heard of this horse before; just goes to show that horses who come second do tend to be forgotten, but what a hero this one was. Would love to see a photo of him and find out what happened when he retired….

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