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- November 21, 2010 at 09:28 #16819
I bought a 3-y-old at Newmarket sales last month and I’ve been puzzling since as to how he qualifies for the (GB) symbol after his name, that I’d always assumed meant the horse was bred in Britain.
His name is Langley(GB) and he came to the sales from German trainer Andreas Wohler, having raced in Germany, France and Switzerland. He was owned and bred by one the trainer’s main patrons, Gestut Hof Ittlingen. They also bred and raced his dam with the same trainer.
His sire is Trempolino(USA), who, to the best of my knowledge, was standing at stud in France when Langley was conceived. The dam is called Late Night(Ger).
So Langley was bred by a German stud from a home bred mare, who was sent to a US bred stallion standing in France.
How on earth does he end up with the GB tag given that background?
Can anyone explain …..
AP
November 21, 2010 at 09:33 #328993It’s where they’re foaled, I believe.
November 21, 2010 at 09:47 #328999His dam must have been visiting a British stallion & he would have been foaled at that stud. I seem to remember that Ribot was registered GB as his dam was visiting a British based stallion at the time. In fact his sire Tenerani who was Italian bred stood at the National Stud in the UK at his conception.
Confusing stuff.November 21, 2010 at 09:58 #329009His dam must have been visiting a British stallion & he would have been foaled at that stud. I seem to remember that Ribot was registered GB as his dam was visiting a British based stallion at the time. In fact his sire Tenerani who was Italian bred stood at the National Stud in the UK at his conception.
Confusing stuff.She went to Anabaa in France but I guess they foaled her at home then shipped her over. Her Anabaa filly is also (GB). It is definitely confusing….
Meant to say, good luck with him AP!
November 21, 2010 at 10:08 #329016With the help of your suggestions, I’ve tracked down a 2-y-old from the dam that was sired by Shirocco. And although that horse was German owned and bred, he’s standing at Dalham Hall Stud in Newmarket.
So that’s presumably where Langley was foaled.
Does seem an odd system that gives a horse about as British as Bratwurst the GB suffix!
For info, Langley is thriving in his new stable and is scheduled to have his first run over hurdles at Newbury on Dec 15th.
AP
November 21, 2010 at 11:01 #329029Good luck with him Alan.
Surely Langley(EUR) would be a better idea
November 21, 2010 at 16:43 #329118Surely Langley(EUR) would be a better idea
Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! lol
Good luck Alan.
November 24, 2010 at 18:36 #329658Surely Langley(EUR) would be a better idea

I’d like that.

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November 24, 2010 at 18:59 #329660For info, Langley is thriving in his new stable and is scheduled to have his first run over hurdles at Newbury on Dec 15th.
AP
In view of the discussion on the other thread, I’m surprised you haven’t managed to find a little ‘oeuf et cuillere’ race on the other side of the Channel

Best of luck with him.
November 25, 2010 at 04:44 #329749Some famous examples of this.
Makybe Diva (GB) – her US bred dam was covered in Ireland and then sold in foal by her Saudi owner to a Croatian living in Australia. She was foaled in England, then sent to Aus as a foal.
Neartic (CAN) – his sire was an Italian horse standing at stud in England, dam was exported to Canada in foal where Neartic was born.
Princequillo (IRE) – his sire Prince Rose was bred in England but is known as the best "Belgian" race horse of all times, as that is where he was owned, trained and raced. Went to stud in France, where he covered Princequillo’s dam, the British bred Cosquilla. She was smuggled out of German occupied France and sent to Ireland where Princequillo was foaled. He was then exported to the US as a foal, where he ended up being trained by the famous Argentinian, Horatio Luro ("El Gran Señor", for whom the Coolmore horse would be named) and owned by a Russian prince.November 25, 2010 at 09:16 #329758Some famous examples of this.
Makybe Diva (GB) – her US bred dam was covered in Ireland and then sold in foal by her Saudi owner to a Croatian living in Australia. She was foaled in England, then sent to Aus as a foal.
Neartic (CAN) – his sire was an Italian horse standing at stud in England, dam was exported to Canada in foal where Neartic was born.
Princequillo (IRE) – his sire Prince Rose was bred in England but is known as the best "Belgian" race horse of all times, as that is where he was owned, trained and raced. Went to stud in France, where he covered Princequillo’s dam, the British bred Cosquilla. She was smuggled out of German occupied France and sent to Ireland where Princequillo was foaled. He was then exported to the US as a foal, where he ended up being trained by the famous Argentinian, Horatio Luro ("El Gran Señor", for whom the Coolmore horse would be named) and owned by a Russian prince.Quality
I’d love to hear a similar description of our Royal Family 
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