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  • #1692580
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    Apparently confirmed runner in Sunday’s 1000 Guineas (currently 66-1) but reported to have died a few days ago. R.I.P.

    #1692586
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    I had the same thoughts yesterday after checking the HRI website. She died at home, but no one seems to have taken notice.

    Even the RP has no clue:

    “Ylang Ylang will be the only representative for Aidan O’Brien, who is seeking an eighth success in the fillies’ Classic, after Brilliant and Content were not declared.”

    #1692595
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    Group winning half sister to Alcohol Free. You’d think there would be more information. Doesn’t even come up on the Racing Post horse search (which, to be fair, is unreliable and increasingly useless).

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    Unbelievable what a closed shop Coolmore is. Brilliant was often the ‘pacemaker’ for Ylang Ylang and a good filly in her own right.
    So sorry to hear she has died, just a baby and it would be nice if Coolmore put out a statement about her death in view of her high profile entry on Sunday which will sadly now not happen.

    RIP .. Brilliant 😢 Gone much too soon.

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    #1692806
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    “…it would be nice if Coolmore put out a statement about her death…”

    The horse is dead, what more do you need to know?

    #1692840
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    We know that now but bookmakers were still offering ante post prices on her days after her death. An announcement from the stable would have put a stop to such dodgy practices.

    #1692861
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    I would totally agree with your reasoning Tonge, but most times that isn’t the case.

    #1692863
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    griff, you’re the “dead or not dead” type of person. Maybe some people on the forum want to find out more about the horse.

    Jac, is a Newmarket regular and racing enthusiast who is very closely attached to horses. If people like her aren’t allowed to find what REALLY happenend to a horse, ESPECIALLY WHEN OWNED BY COOLMORE, racing won’t exist one day.

    #1692866
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    griff11…
    Just to say ‘the horse is dead what more do you need to know’ is very cold and uncaring.
    It’s a matter of respect for a filly who has done well for them and sadly lost her life.

    If that’s how you like to look at the world of racing then I totally respect your decision but please don’t
    question others who might wish to pay a genuine respect and know more about why a perfectly fit
    young filly lost her life.

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    #1692867
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    Thanks Ruby, appreciate that…our posts almost crosssed there but spot on.

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    I second (third) that. However, on top of that, looking to the future it’s important to know if there’s a weakness in the pedigree etc so from a purely clinical point of view we should be told what happened.

    #1692878
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    You’re welcome Jac and I also agree with Moe about the quality of the pedigree.

    Sometimes it’s not a bad thing to know more about other forum members in order to understand their views and concerns.

    #1692881
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    Yes Moe made an important point there about a weakness in the breeding.
    She may have been cast in her box or taken a bad step and they just didn’t think she was high profile
    enough to warrant an explanation, not really acceptable when horse welfare is high on the agenda.

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    #1692899
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    I would also agree with your ‘weakness in pedigree’ point as well Moehat, if that was the case.

    I just don’t understand why people who are totally unconnected with the horse should expect to be told the details. If the stable wish to share that information, then that’s up to them.

    I’m not ‘cold and uncaring’ Triptych, just a realist.

    To have horse racing without fatalities or injuries would be wonderful, but regardless of any improvements and as much as I would like that to be the case, it’s not going to happen, so I accept it.

    #1692906
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    I don’t feel ‘unconnected’ to any horse that I’ve followed throughout its racing career. Clare Balding wrote in a newspaper article several years ago that when you have a bet on a horse you’re buying into it in some way ( I can’t remember exactly what she said but I understood what she meant). I think she was writing about Persian Punch at the time. If you look at American social media people still talk about the tragedy of Ruffians death. It might be many years since horses were a part of most peoples lives but people still seem to have an emotional connection to them.

    #1692916
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    Completely agree with the comments that both the racing authorities and individual stables should keep the public far better informed about equine retirements and deaths.

    It shows that the sport cares about its equine stars. Many people whose money filters through to the industry form a connection with these horses and want to know their fates both during and after their racing careers. There may also be betting market and pedigree angles as has been said, though these are just occasional extra considerations.

    It is shameful some of the big names whose retirement has gone totally unmentioned. This is a real missed opportunity by racing, and could so easily be improved on.

    RIP Brilliant

    #1692928
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    How would we have felt if Shishkin had just been withdrawn from his race with no explanation? Where was it reported that poor Brilliant had died? She was obviously thought to be talented enough to run in a Classic and I’m surprised Coolmore didn’t issue a statement – and I wish they had to show they actually cared? She had raced 10 times for them and won £80k+ …

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