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I think it’s the usual suspects, Lasix and Bute.
I’d expect Hawk Wing to run on Lasix.
Any of the Europeans who haven’t shown a clear liking for fast ground (assuming that’s what gets to be served up), will probably be on Bute, I’d imagine.
<br>both lasix and bute are allowed in illinois
bute is a pain killer ideal for any horses with weak joints especially as venusian points out if the ground rides firm also as the horse will feel no pain they will stride out more to the line it does not make them run faster but it enable horses to keep the same speed longer
lasix is of help to bleeders and horses with respitory problems again it wont make a horse run faster but will help them keep to their top speed longer
i would think most european horses will use one or the other they would be disadvanatged without i would think.
if i recall correctly only fabre has not run his horses as a rule on medication.
also german fillies will not run on medication as their breeders will lose their breeding incentive bonuses they are entitled to if returned to germany
Trainers will have to declare their use of Lasix on 23rd October and this will be administered by a vet on the morning of the race.  You will see which ones are on it in the Racing Post. ÂÂÂ
To be allowed to run on Lasix the horse has to have previously bled in a race – in the case of Americans – or to have a veterinary certificate stating this in the case of Europeans.
You cannot run for 14 days after bleeding.
Last year in New York every European ran on it with the exceptions of Banks Hill, Spring Oak and Slew The Red<br>- the Fabre runners.
Trainers do not have to declare Bute – all though many will be trained on it.  You cannot administer it after 11.05 on Friday October 25th – 24 hours before post time for the Breeders’ Cup day.
As regards dehydration most trainers will give an electrolyte "jug" on arrival.  Dehydration will be monitored by the trainers and electrolytes will be given as appropriate.
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(Edited by Adrian at 9:42 am on Oct. 16, 2002)
Adrian Ive often heard and read that its harder to ship a horse from west to east than from east to west. Ive never seen any explanation for this and was wondering if it’s true?-or just American propaganda?!?
Factors such as ground and humidity – and time of year of course – all have an effect on shipping.
However I don’t follow the West-East theory. After all Frankel does really well in New York and on a world scale the British seem to be able to ship well to Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan etc, going East.
The ground is still riding on the firm side at Arlington but some rain is forecast for later in the week. It is also very cold (40’s). I’ll have more updates when I get there on Friday.
Just a few things that came up in my lexture today:<br>80% of horses bleed(or burst) in their lungs after serious work but most is so insignificant the body is more than able to deal with it. 10% of horses will bleed seriously. As we no in America they use Lasix to deal with this. This lowers the blood volume of the horse which actually lowers the body weight by 0.5%. <br> <br>
<br>adrian<br>is it not 30 days after in illinois they banned a horse today becuase of this (according to the rp)
Run them with a Vicks inhaler up their nose. That’s bound to make them twice the horse thaey would be on lasix LOL (Sorry, very scottish joke with a little sarcasm).
Prince Regent,
The Illinois Racing Board state that "when a horse is added to the furosemide (ie Lasix) list, it shall be placed on the veterinarian’s list and shall be ineligble to race for 14 days"
Which article in the Racing Post did you read about 30 days as I’d like to follow up on this.
<br>adrian
there was a very small item in the rp yesterday it just said the horse……….. will not be running at the bc meeting because of the 30 day rule on the use of lasix in illionois
when i get home if the wife has not thrown it out i will type it out for u
PR,
Found it – it is to do with Pleasantly Perfect who bled at Santa Anita on October 6th – William Hill are refunding betting on it as he was supposedly not able to run from that day.
I’m surprised and will check this out with Arlington
Apparently it is a rule that it is 30 days if they are bleeding for a 2nd time. This was the case with<br>Pleasantly Perfect.
<br>thanks adrian that is the article i read wish the rp had mentioned that it is effective on the 2nd time
Lasix has a completely different use in people. It’s actually a diuretic used to clear the body of swelling, often seen around the joints – commonly seen in the elderly. A very useless fact for you all. Being a pharmacy student I suppose I should know why it has a different action in people and horses but am afraid I don’t. Any suggestions?
Lasix also has a diuretic effect in horses though.  The great lasix debate surrounds the argument of whether the drug is only helping the horse to breathe during the race or is it actually harmful to the horse’s systems through water loss.  Studies in the universities of Ohio and Pennsylvania have shown that Lasix not only enhances performance but it also masks the presence of other drugs.
Another interesting fact (or not, depending on your perspective) the administration of bute could have a detrimental effect on a horse’s performance.  This is because bute inhibits the formation of nitric oxide.  Nitric oxide(NO) is itself a gaseous molecule that is essential in regulating the heart, lung and muscular systems. It dilates the blood vessels and increases the blood flow.  During intense exercise (galloping) the horse’s body uses up large amounts of NO in order to prevent fatigue through heat building up in the muscles.  For optimum performance the horse’s ability to produce NO should not be compromised in any way. This will not necessarily be the case if the horse has been fed bute, although you would have to weigh this up against its pain-killing properties.
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