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  • #22825
    Avatar photokburza
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    [b:33nnatp3]2012 BREEDERS’ CUP – SANTA ANITA: NOVEMBER 2 & 3[/b:33nnatp3][/color:33nnatp3]

    MY TOP CONTENDERS FOR 2012 BREEDERS’ CUP – FIRST LOOK AT ALL CHAMPIONSHIP RACES:

    BC CLASSIC

    – FORT LARNED & POOL PLAY

    BC LADIES’ CLASSIC

    – AWESOME FEATHER

    BC TURF

    – POINT OF ENTRY

    BC FILLY & MARE TURF

    – IZZI TOP & NAHRAIN

    BC MILE

    – WISE DAN

    BC DIRT MILE

    – JERSEY TOWN & MORNING LANE

    BC SPRINT

    – CAPITAL ACCOUNT

    BC TURF SPRINT

    – BRIDGETOWN & STRONG SUIT

    BC FILLY & MARE SPRINT

    – GROUPIE DOLL

    BC JUVENILE

    – FORTIFY

    BC JUVENILE TURF

    – ARTIGIANO & JOHA

    BC JUVENILE FILLIES

    – BEHOLDER

    BC JUVENILE FILLIES TURF

    – SKY LANTERN & FUNFAIR

    BC JUVENILE SPRINT

    – KAUAI KATIE

    BC MARATHON

    – CALIDOSCOPIO

    CHECK BACK DURING BREEDERS’ CUP WEEK FOR FINAL SELECTIONS AND HAPPY HANDICAPPING !!!

    Krist

    http://www.kristpicks.com/

    #418110
    Avatar photoBadactor
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    Greetings from sunny southern California…
    where we are beginning to put the final touches
    on what promises to be the best Breeders’ Cup ever!

    My wife and I will be at Santa Anita both BC days,
    taking photos and enjoying the excellent weekend action.
    As always, folks here are welcome to visit UpInClass Racing Forum (USA).
    Come see what the Americans are saying about Breeders’ Cup 2012.

    Good Luck to ALL who read this message!
    Dell Yount
    http://upinclass.blogspot.com/

    #418248
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    PICKS UPDATED (10.25)

    BC CLASSIC

    – FORT LARNED & POOL PLAY

    BC LADIES’ CLASSIC

    – AWESOME FEATHER

    BC TURF

    – SHARETA

    BC FILLY & MARE TURF

    – THE FUGUE & RIDASIYNA

    BC MILE

    – EXCELEBRATION & OBVIOUSLY

    BC DIRT MILE

    – JERSEY TOWN

    BC SPRINT

    – CAPITAL ACCOUNT & EMCEE

    BC TURF SPRINT

    – CORPORATE JUNGLE

    BC FILLY & MARE SPRINT

    – GROUPIE DOLL

    BC JUVENILE

    – SHANGHAI BOBBY

    BC JUVENILE TURF

    – I’M BOUNDTOSCORE & JOHA

    BC JUVENILE FILLIES

    – KAUAI KATIE

    BC JUVENILE FILLIES TURF

    – SKY LANTERN

    BC JUVENILE SPRINT

    – BEHOLDER

    BC MARATHON

    – FAME AND GLORY

    #418346
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    Odds and comments by Mike Watchmaker @ DRF…
    http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup-20 … tries-odds

    #418435
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    http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/UpInClass/Breeders%20Cup/BreedersCupSantaAnitaLogo.jpg


    http://www.breederscup.com/

    #418518
    Grimes
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    Meandre
    Moonlight Cloud
    Fame & Glory
    Sky Lantern
    …for me. And maybe one or two others.

    #418540
    moehat
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    Good to hear from you again, Badactor. Look forward to your excellent photo’s. Do you guys touch the statue of Seabiscuit for luck as we do here with Arkle at Cheltenham? If so, say hello to the statue from me….my dream is to do it myself one day. Have a great time. Anyone got a radio link, by the way?

    #418581
    Adrian
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    Grimes where did you pick up Meandre from – he’s not running in Breeders’ Cup.

    Declarations for both Friday and Saturday’s races are at 10am local time tomorrow (Monday).

    #418653
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    FINAL PICKS WITH POST POSITIONS

    CONTENDERS AND UPSETTERS:

    DAY 1
    JUVENILE SPRINT

    PICK: 2 CEILING KITTY*

    MARATHON

    PICK: 2 FAME AND GLORY WATCH OUT FOR: 13 SENSE OF PURPOSE

    JUVENILE FILLIES TURF

    PICK: 3 SKY LANTERN WATCH OUT FOR: 12 THE GOLD CHEONGSAM

    JUVENILE FILLIES

    PICK: 8 KAUAI KATIE

    FILLIES AND MARES TURF

    PICK: 10 RIDASIYNA WATCH OUT FOR: 2 ZAGORA*

    LADIES CLASSIC

    PICK: 5 AWESOME FEATHER*

    DAY 2

    JUVENILE TURF

    PICK: 5 FANTASTIC MOON WATCH OUT FOR: 14 LINES OF BATTLE

    FILLIES AND MARES SPRINT

    PICK: 9 GROUPIE DOLL WATCH OUT FOR: 3 DUST AND DIAMONDS

    DIRT MILE

    PICK: 3 JERSEY TOWN WATCH OUT FOR: 2 DELEGATION

    TURF SPRINT

    PICK: 5 NEXT QUESTION WATCH OUT FOR: 10 CORPORATE JUNGLE

    JUVENILE

    PICK: 4 SHANGHAI BOBBY WATCH OUT FOR: 8 FORTIFY*

    TURF

    PICK: 5 SHARETA

    SPRINT

    PICK: 7 THE LUMBER GUY* WATCH OUT FOR: 8 CAPITAL ACCOUNT

    MILE
    PICK: 3 OBVIOUSLY

    CLASSIC

    PICK: 11 MUCHO MACHO MAN* WATCH OUT FOR: 1 POOL PLAY*

    *)value bets

    **) in Classic I don’t like favors and I am looking for bombs!!!

    Good luck *)

    http://www.kristpicks.com/

    #418678
    Avatar photoHimself
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    Turf Mile – Excelebration

    That’ll do me ! :)

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #418680
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    Turf Mile – Excelebration

    That’ll do me ! :)

    Might be greedy and double him up with Game on Dude, both look to have outstanding chances.

    #418686
    Grimes
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    Grimes where did you pick up Meandre from – he’s not running in Breeders’ Cup.

    Declarations for both Friday and Saturday’s races are at 10am local time tomorrow (Monday).

    From the Oddschecker site, Adrian. What a disappoinment. I don’t believe we’ve seen the best of her yet – like a good few of these BC runners, I dare say.

    #418697
    Grimes
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    The prices the bookies are offering seem very skinny. Is it likely that waiting for the US tote pool would be preferable? I can’t believe they’ve been contracting.

    #418731
    stilvi
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    Clearly you don’t become an American racing expert in a few hours so caution should be the order of the day.

    I think Ridasiyna represents the best chance for the Europeans but I was visually impressed by the wins of Lady Of Shamrock. Is she 16/1 on the assumption the European fillies on turf are historically superior or were those victories a case of style over substance? An American view on her chances would be appreciated.

    #418811
    Avatar photoMiss Woodford
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    Handicapping note: Note: Now that Oak Tree is out of Santa Anita the track changed the names of most of the fall stakes races. A guide for the perplexed: http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/story/_ … all-stakes

    Clearly you don’t become an American racing expert in a few hours so caution should be the order of the day.

    I think Ridasiyna represents the best chance for the Europeans but I was visually impressed by the wins of Lady Of Shamrock. Is she 16/1 on the assumption the European fillies on turf are historically superior or were those victories a case of style over substance? An American view on her chances would be appreciated.

    Ridasyna is 4/1 on the morning line because she’s an Aga Khan horse. Lady of Shamrock is 12/1 on the morning line because the Californian F&M turf contingent that she’s been beating isn’t as strong as those back east, and neither of them are as good as the Europeans. However, the quirks of Santa Anita’s downhill superhighway turf course work in her favor. I expect Zagora to end up as the parimutuel favorite, unless the turf is worse than firm.

    A few thoughts:

    -Fame and Glory is going to be horribly overbet in the Marathon, so I’d take a closer look at the Americans this time. I must mention my local boy Not Abroad, who’s as hard-knocking as they come, will always find a way to get on the board, and has shown staying ability.
    -California Flag is still the king of the Santa Anita turf sprints. Like Kauto Star at Kempton, bet against him here at your own risk.
    -Point of Entry, from the legendary Phipps stable, is a shoe-in for Champion Turf Horse. He’s keeping the Dynaformer legacy alive and I look forward to watching him duke it out with St. Nicholas Abbey.
    -Excelebration will lose to Wise Dan and make you all hate Joseph O’Brien all over again.
    -Game On Dude has very appropriate initials.

    #418843
    Avatar photoLone Wolf
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    If the real Excelebration turns up then he will make Wise Dan look like one can Dan. I think the Americans have a chance in the juv turf, which quite a few expect the Europeans to win. A couple of decent looking American horses have a decent draw, such as Noble Tune(nice mover) and Balance the Books for example. In the turf i’d expect either St Nic or Shareta to prevail, as they were looked after last time. Point of Entry can enter where he wants, but he won’t be winning this race i’m afraid. My single was The Fugue at 11/4, and the only horses in that race that concern me are the ones i don’t know. I think she will win as long as things go ok in running.

    #418846
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    What do you guys make of the first race – the dirt sprint for juveniles?

    I have been pawing through it for the past hour and am starting to favour Ceiling Kitty over Merit Man. Being by Red Clubs with plenty of US blood in her pedigree, she should handle the dirt well. It is so hard to compare the pair of them, though.

    Looking at last year’s race, the European contender didn’t have such strong form in the book as Ceiling Kitty, who is a Grade 1 winner. Secret Circle had a very similar profile to Merit Man, yet only clung on by a length from Shumoos. By that slightly convoluted logic, maybe Ceiling Kitty should get the verdict.

    I have read reports that she "took a long time to get used to the place" when visiting the Santa Anita track, though. Can you shed any more light on that, Miss Woodford?

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