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  • #20325
    OneEyeOneEye
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    When I was a kid, 18-year-old that is, I used to have no luck whatsoever in my local William Hill shop. It came to the point where I feared walking past the place in case something bad happened, my luck was horrendous in that place.

    In this current age of online betting I opened up a William Hill account a few years ago, but again, I had no luck whatsoever so I decided not to use it.

    Last week I got an email to say I’d been selected at random to receive a free £50 bet as long as I wagered at least £100 over a period of at least seven days.

    I thought ok, I’m not that superstitious to turn this down so I started depositing and using William Hill online again, to small stakes may I add.

    Since the 17th of November, here is a lit of the 47 bets I placed;

    17 Nov – Kempton, Beat Of The Blues to bt Junoob – LOST
    17 Nov – Kempton, Beat Of The Blues to bt Baraaya – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
    17 Nov – Kempton, Larkrise Star – LOST
    17 Nov – Kempton, Al Aqabah – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
    17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
    18 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
    18 Nov – Dundalk, Duff – LOST
    18 Nov – Wolv, Mazamorra – LOST
    18 Nov – Presidents Cup Golf, 4-balls – LOST
    18 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
    20 Nov – Exeter, Baseball Ted – LOST
    20 Nov – Punchestown, Dedigout to bt Carrig Millie – LOST
    20 Nov – Towcester, Master Milan – LOST
    20 Nov – Towcester, Master Milan to bt Mexican Bob – LOST
    20 Nov – Master Milan, Dedigout – Double – LOST
    20 Nov – Exeter, Knight Pass to bt Greywell Boy – LOST
    20 Nov – Punchestown, Capellanus – LOST
    20 Nov – Exeter, Water Garden – LOST
    20 Nov – Punchestown, Sizing Gold – LOST
    21 Nov – Ffos Las, Rate Of Knots – LOST
    21 Nov – Kempton, Georgian King – LOST
    21 Nov – Ludlow, Wrapitupboys – LOST
    21 Nov – Ffos Las, Dantari – LOST
    21 Nov – Kempton, Pickamus – LOST
    21 Nov – Ludlow, Mission Complete – LOST
    22 Nov – Sedgefield, Royal Mile – LOST
    22 Nov – Southwell, Le King Beau – LOST
    22 Nov – Lingfield, Extremely So – LOST
    22 Nov – Cloudy Dawn – LOST
    22 Nov – Football Accumulator – LOST
    22 Nov – Football Accumulator – LOST
    24 Nov – Thurles, Dark Vagabon – LOST
    24 Nov – Newbury, Richmond – LOST
    24 Nov – Newbury, Sentimentaljourney – LOST
    24 Nov – Richmond/Sentimentaljourney RFC – LOST
    24 Nov – Taunton, I Can Run Can You – LOST
    24 Nov – I Can Run Can You to bt Blossom King – LOST
    24 Nov – I Can Run Can You to bt Cantabilly – LOST
    24 Nov – Uttox, Morocchius – LOST
    24 Nov – Mangonel to bt Morocchius – LOST
    24 Nov – Thurles, Chaperoned – LOST
    24 Nov – Newbury, Grand Crus to bt Viking Blond – LOST

    Within this list of 47 consecutive losers there has been some shockers, last fence blunders, 1/4 shots getting beat, odds-on favs getting beat, and some horrendous luck on my sports bets.

    A quick example. I had a ‘permed’ Correct Score treble on the darts last week. The first two won at odds of 16/1 and 12/1 and my final leg was Adrian Lewis to beat John Part 10-4, 10-5, 10-6, or 10-7. Lewis led Part 9-4 but then proceeded to lose the next four legs before winning 10-8. That run of four legs lost by Lewis cost me a minimum of £2,500, this after I’d deposited just £80 at the time.

    Anyway, I receive my £50 free bet and put it on How’s My Friend in the 2.55 at Taunton. I didn’t watch the race, and I don’t want to in case it led by 10 lengths or something. It got beat a nose.

    My account is now closed with William Hill, simply because 48 consecutive losers has to be something more than bad judgement. I swear I’m cursed with this company.

    This is not a moan in any way. This venture cost me £150 which I’d normally wager on my favourite bet (placepots) during a normal week. William Hill don’t do placepots! I just thought I’d share my tale of misfortunie with this company. I doubt I’ll step into one of their shops ever again.

    #379491
    DroneDrone
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    Win Singles Horses

    The above is tattooed on my forehead and palms, and it goes without saying, on the back of my hand and as a screen saver

    #379495
    Hippo JoeHippo Joe
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    One Eye, don’t feel so bad. I had a run like that this Summer, but it’s behind me now.

    Like Drone, I only bet win singles, so my disaster was even worse – my bets weren’t even speculative and yours were.

    Don’t want to rub it in, but I have to tell you that Matt Chapman spent half the afternoon on ATR begging for the stewards to have a look at how Nick Scholfield got beat one Hows My Friend.

    #379560
    nighthorsenighthorse
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    That’s an unbelievable run of bad luck :o

    One question, Newbury – Grand Crus to bt Viking Blond. Why was that a losing bet? :?

    #379838
    RubyisgodinthesaddleRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    First of all….stop betting on Horses.

    Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day. They do in there bollocks. You have to be very specific, 5 bets a week is too many 3 is about right. Search for value and do your own visual research.

    Finally betting on Horses is just waste of time unless you pick the big races every weekend or some of the better novice race. There are ridden by largely completely icompetent Human beings who are suffer terrible mind blowing agnony by starving themselves many who left school barely able to read and write. Trainers are either the before mentioned or wealthy affluent born with a silver spoon and then they are a few rare ones. Most are straight but that doesn’t mean they send horses completely unfit to the race track.

    Here i give you a winner good thing.

    Tiger woods to win at 3/1 next week…..look at a athlete with more bottle than all the Jockeys in the weigh room combined. Who wants not just to defeat but set records and mentally crush the opposition. There is no such thing as a bad bet on Tiger Woods.

    #379847
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    First of all….stop betting on Horses.

    Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day.

    Backing horses is not a "fools game".

    Yours

    Gobshite

    value is everything
    #379850
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    One Eye,

    Number of losing bets isn’t as surprising as it sounds. With accumulators and picking one horse to beat different particular horses. So if one horse runs poorly, you lose several bets.

    As Drone says, keep to win singles or each way and your losing runs will be a lot fewer.

    value is everything
    #379851
    RubyisgodinthesaddleRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Good man.

    How has such corporate giants like PP/Laddies made on the back of the poor workingclass punter??….Sucks you in with the invitation of gold and riches and you come out angry and a menance to society because you don’t know any better? or have the tools to help yourself.

    My Father once said…." Son if someone says they make money from gambling on sports, ask them how PaddyPower can afford to that out 100,000 of euro of advertising every week and employ 1000’s of staff across these Island’s in shops they do not own and equip them all while still making a profit that allows them to considered as blue chip investment these days"

    He left me with that and threw me the Business section of the Irish Times. There it was records profits for PaddyPower.

    You want to make money from gambling day to day, invest in a gambling company that is well run.

    #379852
    thehorsesmouththehorsesmouth
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    Backing Tiger Woods = a fool’s game!

    The worst run I had was 13 consecutive losers, all of which were either win or each way singles. None of them even placed.

    #379854
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Ruby,
    Bookmakers make good profits because the vast majority of punters don’t study in the correct manner to make it pay. That doesn’t mean it is impossible to do so. Far from it in fact.

    I’d better add…
    Not that there is anything wrong with punters betting without any chance of showing a profit. If they get pleasure from it why not bet? Exactly like someone going for a pint down the pub. Two people get pleasure from different things.

    value is everything
    #379855
    PantsPants
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    First of all….stop betting on Horses.

    Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day. They do in there bollocks. You have to be very specific, 5 bets a week is too many 3 is about right. Search for value and do your own visual research.

    Finally betting on Horses is just waste of time unless you pick the big races every weekend or some of the better novice race. There are ridden by largely completely icompetent Human beings who are suffer terrible mind blowing agnony by starving themselves many who left school barely able to read and write. Trainers are either the before mentioned or wealthy affluent born with a silver spoon and then they are a few rare ones. Most are straight but that doesn’t mean they send horses completely unfit to the race track.

    Here i give you a winner good thing.

    Tiger woods to win at 3/1 next week…..look at a athlete with more bottle than all the Jockeys in the weigh room combined. Who wants not just to defeat but set records and mentally crush the opposition. There is no such thing as a bad bet on Tiger Woods.

    Sorry but this is utter garbage.

    #379858
    RubyisgodinthesaddleRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Completely agree Ginger that it can be done!!!.

    But I believe without doubt that sitting around everyday waiting for Racing to come on will not only lose you money but more than likely mentally have quite tragic results down the line.

    I did it for a month 2 years ago and i wiped out all my profit from 3 weeks and 4 days in the period of 3 days with just mindless wreckless losing complete focus. Mentally i became tired and was losing all sense of reality. Thankfully that lasted for 2 days and involved me running about 100 Miles in 2 days in order to think about what i had just done.

    I bet rarely but when i do the winnings are large much larger than i had done before.

    On the Tiger Woods bet, the man is coming back, he was great in Oz and in his own event where McDowell basically had gods touch in the final round last year he would have won no doubt. This man is mentally a giant, a titan. A zeus if you will :wink:

    #379863
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Sometimes a winning or losing run is just the law of averages. No matter what strike rate a punter has… Eveyone, even successful punters go through losing runs. Everyone, even unsuccessful punters will go through winning runs.

    Sometimes a punter likes to believe he/she can get the good times back, where as a winning run was probably just a coincidence.

    If you toss a coin thousands of times, heads will at some point come up 10 times in a row. Doesn’t mean the coin is "bent" or that you’re throwing the coin wrongly.

    value is everything
    #379869
    JJMSportsJJMSports
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    Win Singles Horses

    Love this post.

    #379903
    DroneDrone
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    Sometimes a winning or losing run is just the law of averages

    That phrase sends shivers down my spine Ginger, and surprises me, coming as it does from one obsessed with odds, sods, chance and decimal points

    I would humbly suggest you rush to the edit button and replace ‘averages’ with ‘large numbers’ which if you really must insist on wandering off down the rutted stony track to those mysterious and fabled lands of Probability and Expectation, does at least suggest you haven’t instead taken the easy option of a stroll down the tarmac for a skinfull in that ruinous but inviting den of iniquity,Ye Olde Gamblers Fallacy

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