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- November 24, 2011 at 15:24 #20325
When I was a kid, 18-year-old that is, I used to have no luck whatsoever in my local William Hill shop. It came to the point where I feared walking past the place in case something bad happened, my luck was horrendous in that place.
In this current age of online betting I opened up a William Hill account a few years ago, but again, I had no luck whatsoever so I decided not to use it.
Last week I got an email to say I’d been selected at random to receive a free £50 bet as long as I wagered at least £100 over a period of at least seven days.
I thought ok, I’m not that superstitious to turn this down so I started depositing and using William Hill online again, to small stakes may I add.
Since the 17th of November, here is a lit of the 47 bets I placed;
17 Nov – Kempton, Beat Of The Blues to bt Junoob – LOST
17 Nov – Kempton, Beat Of The Blues to bt Baraaya – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
17 Nov – Kempton, Larkrise Star – LOST
17 Nov – Kempton, Al Aqabah – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
17 Nov – Darts Correct Score – LOST
18 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
18 Nov – Dundalk, Duff – LOST
18 Nov – Wolv, Mazamorra – LOST
18 Nov – Presidents Cup Golf, 4-balls – LOST
18 Nov – Darts Accumulator – LOST
20 Nov – Exeter, Baseball Ted – LOST
20 Nov – Punchestown, Dedigout to bt Carrig Millie – LOST
20 Nov – Towcester, Master Milan – LOST
20 Nov – Towcester, Master Milan to bt Mexican Bob – LOST
20 Nov – Master Milan, Dedigout – Double – LOST
20 Nov – Exeter, Knight Pass to bt Greywell Boy – LOST
20 Nov – Punchestown, Capellanus – LOST
20 Nov – Exeter, Water Garden – LOST
20 Nov – Punchestown, Sizing Gold – LOST
21 Nov – Ffos Las, Rate Of Knots – LOST
21 Nov – Kempton, Georgian King – LOST
21 Nov – Ludlow, Wrapitupboys – LOST
21 Nov – Ffos Las, Dantari – LOST
21 Nov – Kempton, Pickamus – LOST
21 Nov – Ludlow, Mission Complete – LOST
22 Nov – Sedgefield, Royal Mile – LOST
22 Nov – Southwell, Le King Beau – LOST
22 Nov – Lingfield, Extremely So – LOST
22 Nov – Cloudy Dawn – LOST
22 Nov – Football Accumulator – LOST
22 Nov – Football Accumulator – LOST
24 Nov – Thurles, Dark Vagabon – LOST
24 Nov – Newbury, Richmond – LOST
24 Nov – Newbury, Sentimentaljourney – LOST
24 Nov – Richmond/Sentimentaljourney RFC – LOST
24 Nov – Taunton, I Can Run Can You – LOST
24 Nov – I Can Run Can You to bt Blossom King – LOST
24 Nov – I Can Run Can You to bt Cantabilly – LOST
24 Nov – Uttox, Morocchius – LOST
24 Nov – Mangonel to bt Morocchius – LOST
24 Nov – Thurles, Chaperoned – LOST
24 Nov – Newbury, Grand Crus to bt Viking Blond – LOSTWithin this list of 47 consecutive losers there has been some shockers, last fence blunders, 1/4 shots getting beat, odds-on favs getting beat, and some horrendous luck on my sports bets.
A quick example. I had a ‘permed’ Correct Score treble on the darts last week. The first two won at odds of 16/1 and 12/1 and my final leg was Adrian Lewis to beat John Part 10-4, 10-5, 10-6, or 10-7. Lewis led Part 9-4 but then proceeded to lose the next four legs before winning 10-8. That run of four legs lost by Lewis cost me a minimum of £2,500, this after I’d deposited just £80 at the time.
Anyway, I receive my £50 free bet and put it on How’s My Friend in the 2.55 at Taunton. I didn’t watch the race, and I don’t want to in case it led by 10 lengths or something. It got beat a nose.
My account is now closed with William Hill, simply because 48 consecutive losers has to be something more than bad judgement. I swear I’m cursed with this company.
This is not a moan in any way. This venture cost me £150 which I’d normally wager on my favourite bet (placepots) during a normal week. William Hill don’t do placepots! I just thought I’d share my tale of misfortunie with this company. I doubt I’ll step into one of their shops ever again.
November 24, 2011 at 20:57 #379491Win Singles Horses
The above is tattooed on my forehead and palms, and it goes without saying, on the back of my hand and as a screen saver
November 24, 2011 at 21:05 #379495One Eye, don’t feel so bad. I had a run like that this Summer, but it’s behind me now.
Like Drone, I only bet win singles, so my disaster was even worse – my bets weren’t even speculative and yours were.
Don’t want to rub it in, but I have to tell you that Matt Chapman spent half the afternoon on ATR begging for the stewards to have a look at how Nick Scholfield got beat one Hows My Friend.
November 25, 2011 at 15:22 #379560That’s an unbelievable run of bad luck

One question, Newbury – Grand Crus to bt Viking Blond. Why was that a losing bet?
November 26, 2011 at 22:20 #379838First of all….stop betting on Horses.
Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day. They do in there bollocks. You have to be very specific, 5 bets a week is too many 3 is about right. Search for value and do your own visual research.
Finally betting on Horses is just waste of time unless you pick the big races every weekend or some of the better novice race. There are ridden by largely completely icompetent Human beings who are suffer terrible mind blowing agnony by starving themselves many who left school barely able to read and write. Trainers are either the before mentioned or wealthy affluent born with a silver spoon and then they are a few rare ones. Most are straight but that doesn’t mean they send horses completely unfit to the race track.
Here i give you a winner good thing.
Tiger woods to win at 3/1 next week…..look at a athlete with more bottle than all the Jockeys in the weigh room combined. Who wants not just to defeat but set records and mentally crush the opposition. There is no such thing as a bad bet on Tiger Woods.
November 26, 2011 at 22:43 #379847First of all….stop betting on Horses.
Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day.
Backing horses is not a "fools game".
Yours
Gobshite
Value Is EverythingNovember 26, 2011 at 22:52 #379850One Eye,
Number of losing bets isn’t as surprising as it sounds. With accumulators and picking one horse to beat different particular horses. So if one horse runs poorly, you lose several bets.
As Drone says, keep to win singles or each way and your losing runs will be a lot fewer.
Value Is EverythingNovember 26, 2011 at 22:53 #379851Good man.
How has such corporate giants like PP/Laddies made on the back of the poor workingclass punter??….Sucks you in with the invitation of gold and riches and you come out angry and a menance to society because you don’t know any better? or have the tools to help yourself.
My Father once said…." Son if someone says they make money from gambling on sports, ask them how PaddyPower can afford to that out 100,000 of euro of advertising every week and employ 1000’s of staff across these Island’s in shops they do not own and equip them all while still making a profit that allows them to considered as blue chip investment these days"
He left me with that and threw me the Business section of the Irish Times. There it was records profits for PaddyPower.
You want to make money from gambling day to day, invest in a gambling company that is well run.
November 26, 2011 at 22:54 #379852Backing Tiger Woods = a fool’s game!
The worst run I had was 13 consecutive losers, all of which were either win or each way singles. None of them even placed.
November 26, 2011 at 22:59 #379854Ruby,
Bookmakers make good profits because the vast majority of punters don’t study in the correct manner to make it pay. That doesn’t mean it is impossible to do so. Far from it in fact.I’d better add…
Not that there is anything wrong with punters betting without any chance of showing a profit. If they get pleasure from it why not bet? Exactly like someone going for a pint down the pub. Two people get pleasure from different things.Value Is EverythingNovember 26, 2011 at 23:01 #379855First of all….stop betting on Horses.
Horses are a fools game every knows this, yet every gobshite will tell you different that they win day to day. They do in there bollocks. You have to be very specific, 5 bets a week is too many 3 is about right. Search for value and do your own visual research.
Finally betting on Horses is just waste of time unless you pick the big races every weekend or some of the better novice race. There are ridden by largely completely icompetent Human beings who are suffer terrible mind blowing agnony by starving themselves many who left school barely able to read and write. Trainers are either the before mentioned or wealthy affluent born with a silver spoon and then they are a few rare ones. Most are straight but that doesn’t mean they send horses completely unfit to the race track.
Here i give you a winner good thing.
Tiger woods to win at 3/1 next week…..look at a athlete with more bottle than all the Jockeys in the weigh room combined. Who wants not just to defeat but set records and mentally crush the opposition. There is no such thing as a bad bet on Tiger Woods.
Sorry but this is utter garbage.
November 26, 2011 at 23:07 #379858Completely agree Ginger that it can be done!!!.
But I believe without doubt that sitting around everyday waiting for Racing to come on will not only lose you money but more than likely mentally have quite tragic results down the line.
I did it for a month 2 years ago and i wiped out all my profit from 3 weeks and 4 days in the period of 3 days with just mindless wreckless losing complete focus. Mentally i became tired and was losing all sense of reality. Thankfully that lasted for 2 days and involved me running about 100 Miles in 2 days in order to think about what i had just done.
I bet rarely but when i do the winnings are large much larger than i had done before.
On the Tiger Woods bet, the man is coming back, he was great in Oz and in his own event where McDowell basically had gods touch in the final round last year he would have won no doubt. This man is mentally a giant, a titan. A zeus if you will
November 26, 2011 at 23:35 #379863Sometimes a winning or losing run is just the law of averages. No matter what strike rate a punter has… Eveyone, even successful punters go through losing runs. Everyone, even unsuccessful punters will go through winning runs.
Sometimes a punter likes to believe he/she can get the good times back, where as a winning run was probably just a coincidence.
If you toss a coin thousands of times, heads will at some point come up 10 times in a row. Doesn’t mean the coin is "bent" or that you’re throwing the coin wrongly.
Value Is EverythingNovember 26, 2011 at 23:57 #379869Win Singles Horses
Love this post.
November 27, 2011 at 10:44 #379903Sometimes a winning or losing run is just the law of averages
That phrase sends shivers down my spine Ginger, and surprises me, coming as it does from one obsessed with odds, sods, chance and decimal points
I would humbly suggest you rush to the edit button and replace ‘averages’ with ‘large numbers’ which if you really must insist on wandering off down the rutted stony track to those mysterious and fabled lands of Probability and Expectation, does at least suggest you haven’t instead taken the easy option of a stroll down the tarmac for a skinfull in that ruinous but inviting den of iniquity,Ye Olde Gamblers Fallacy
November 27, 2011 at 12:26 #379910Like "value" the words "law of averages" means different things to different people Drone and is often misunderstood.
There’s the
wrong
meaning: Flip a coin (which is not bent), comes down heads five times in a row. Some people think the "law of averages" says the sixth time is more likely to be a tail. Where as in truth what comes before does
not
have anything to do with the next flip. The sixth flip is exactly the same chance as any other particular flip, it’s obviously still a
50 – 50 chance
.
Or there’s the
true
meaning: Flip a coin thousands of times, the
true
"law of averages" means there will be times when 10 flips in a row come down heads. Even though
over all
it will be close to a
50 – 50 split
.
Say there’s a
successful
punter who has a 50% strike rate at an average priced winner of 6/4 going back thousands of bets. The true "Law Of Averages" tells us there will be times when he/she backs 10
losers
in a row. Does
not
mean to say this punter did anything
wrong
in his/her form study with those 10 consecutive losers. It is something to be
expected
from time to time.
Now say there is an
unsuccessful
punter with a 50% strike rate at an average price winner of 4/6 going back thousands of bets. The true "Law Of Averages" says there will be times when he/she will back 10
winners
in a row. Does not mean to say this punter did anything
right
in his/her form study with those 10 consecutive
winners
. It is something to be
expected
from time to time.
Value Is EverythingNovember 27, 2011 at 14:10 #379928I know these runs very well, nasty business. I did alright yesterday though, Battlecry and Rock On Ruby at outrageous prices of 4/1 and 13/2 early. Nice. Just a double for a squid, but it pays a bill.
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