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- October 23, 2009 at 19:28 #254967
As I understand it, the audience are asked to submit questions. Apart from the final, often light hearted one, the most popular are asked (if not covered in a recent programme). Surprised there was no Post Office strike question. But there’s no way this was going to be a “normal” Question Time. Am a regular viewer and have seen others primarily about one subject; so it does happen. Had Putin, Osama or Obama been on the programme, am sure the questions would have been slanted towards their “interests” too. The BNP do not get a member on every week, where as Con, Lib and Lab do. Audience on the night and us viewers want to know Nick Griffin’s opinions on relevant matters. Royal Mail and other subjects can wait for another day.
Can’t see it was unfair at all. If the other panelists had said something in their past that apparently contradicted their current position; they’d be asked to explain their change of mind. So it was right for Dimbleby to ask those questions. I seem to remember Tony Blair questioned about his CND membership, and Ken Livingstone about meetings with Gaddafi etc. Of course they’re not asked about these things on every Question Time. So hope the BNP does not do well in the next elections and so not asked back.
When there is an outspoken person on a panel with such right wing views, the other panelists are all (comparitively) of the same opinion. So are going to give him a hard time. That’s not a witch hunt, that’s just taking someone to task. Just because one panelist disagrees with him, does not mean the others have to remain silent. Just to be “fair”.
Value Is EverythingOctober 23, 2009 at 21:22 #254989Disappointing. Just ‘theatre’. As NG says, do it again.. properly in terms of a proper QT. If there is a case for a debate of his views.. do it separately.I found it annoying all in all. As for all those students and others ‘fighting/ using up police time’ outside (and inside) BBC TV Centre..It annoyed me too as it added to NG’s air time. Is that what they wanted?
October 23, 2009 at 21:54 #254999As I understand it, the audience are asked to submit questions. Apart from the final, often light hearted one, the most popular are asked
Sort of, but i wouldnt be so sure about the selection process
I appeared in audience years ago when the panel was Douglas Hurd, Hattersley, Ashdown and (believe it or not) Robert maxwell. i would recommend it to anyone although the BBC people do treat you a bit like children
October 24, 2009 at 00:13 #255013The result of an opinion poll was that 22% of people would consider voting BNP. I find that very disturbing [although I’m not altogether surprised].
October 24, 2009 at 08:09 #255028It’s quite interesting to read through the posts on here and see the school of thought. Here’s mine, it might be different to all of yours but in a mature and grown up democracy we have debates don’t we?
The main reason I was disappointed with the so-called debate on QT was that no-one actually pointed out that the reason the BNP got 2 MEPs elected was because the Main Parties don’t take their democratic responsibilities seriously and their own support feel through the floor. Labour finished in third place! That’s electifact One and it should have been put to the panel.
Electifact Two is, their is no difference between the Main Parties on important issues that people care about, immigration and EU integration. So ordinary normal people are going to vote for parties that address these issues. I voted for NO2EU, but could have easily voted UKIP or BNP. I’m not thick, lazy, bigotted or anything, I’m just average.
Everyone is sick of politics and politicians. Politicians behave like a super-gangster elite and basically rip the arse out of the public in every way. These cynical super-super gangsters are in no position to lecture anybody else on how to think, what to watch and who to listen to. They don’t have my best interests at heart, they are only concerned with themselves.
As for Winston Churchill, he should be the Labour Party mascot not the BNP’s, he killed bucket fulls of Iraqis as well.
October 24, 2009 at 09:16 #255034Something quite revealing today, no doubt leaked by a clueless Labour machine
Jack Straw went to hug the woman he "mistakenly" refered to as afro carribean rather than african carribean (wtf does it matter?) after the show
Now if a white woman had corrected him to state she was "white english thank you"……
October 24, 2009 at 09:49 #255042The over-eagerness of politicians to demonstrate that they are not racist never quite convinces me.Slogans like ‘Britain thrives on multiculturalism’ mean nothing to me I’m afraid and I’ve yet to hear it explained.
This is the first time I have ever heard anyone object to the term Afro-Carribean and I would be amazed if Jack Straw knew what the offence was ( I presume that after all these years someone has realised that Afro is a reference to a hair style rather than a continent??)
In any case the objection is unhelpful if it distracts or confuses people in realising that not pre-judging people, treating them with respect until you have cause not to and taking each person as you find them is the key to everyone avoiding any kind of ‘isms or unpleasantness,the law can take care of the rest.
Simplistic? If its so simple lets give it a try along with a few more pleases,thank yous,sorrys and excuse mes and we won’t recognise the place.
October 24, 2009 at 10:23 #255050What does concern me is that Griffin has a habit of saying things sometimes that I [to my horror] find myself inwardly agreeing with. However, don’t let anyone feel sorry for this man or his party. We have a lot of problems in this country and he and they are just parasites feeding off those problems, with no actual solution to them.
As I said, I do find myself agreeing with things that they say, and have realised that what they do is make me have a grievance that I didn’t know I had which then starts to bother me
Actually believe it’s a healthy trait to allow yourself to agree – to a lesser or greater extent – with an opinion(s) expressed by individuals without letting their self-professed political affiliations colour you’re reaction.
Despite a brief flirtation with the ‘old left’ when a naive wide-eyed youth I’ve made a point of remaining strictly non-partisan and try to listen/read the thoughts of others – politician, man-in-the street, message-boarders – with an open mind. If you find yourself agreeing with the words of someone fine; it matters not one jot what political persuasion they espouse or are representing.
Which is why I thoroughly dislike two-party politics as it encourages division by a feeling of having to side with one or the other, never the twain shall meet, them and us. We now of course have essentially one-party politics which is even more unhealthy as those disaffected with one are likely to feel disaffected by both hence turn helplessly to a minority party, knowing that given our ‘first past the post’ electoral system theirs will be a wasted vote. Roll on PR.
Few would question that we do have a major problem with immigration into this country – of successive governments’ making – both in the numbers arriving and the problem of social integration once here. So I – and the majority it seems likely – would agree with Griffin as far as that goes, no problem. Trouble with the BNP is they deliberately fuel a fire of hate by trying to appeal to the baser instincts as a solution; in the case of immigrants ‘kick out the coons’; in the case of law and order ‘string ’em up’; in the case of discipline ‘bring back the birch’; in the case of social cohesion an insular ‘Christian, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon axis: keep Britain white’.
As you say Moe they are virulent parasites who prey on the weak, disaffected and impressionable but whose ‘solutions’ are dangerous, fatuous and certainly unworkable.
Does anyone know of people that have voted BNP? I’ve met a few and they all argue that it is a protest vote.
From personal experience those from the loony-left tend to be middle-class, sober, intense, tea-totalling tight-arses and those from the loony-right the chaps-night-out-tongue-loosened-by-drink pub bores be they in Working Men’s Club or Golf Club.
Hence I make it a rule that politics is only discussed between consenting adults on anonymous message boards.
Enjoy the racing, cultivate your garden, smell the roses, feed the mind, love it all: life is short Mr Griffin so why fill it with hate
October 24, 2009 at 11:49 #255063They remind me of the Jehovas’s Witnesses [sp] who, when I was a mother at home with small children, would stand on my doorstep and tell me that whatever I was afraid of at the time [nuclear war, aids etc] me and mine would be protected from it if I joined them. I suppose today they would be telling me that I would be protected from swine flu! Once I realised what they were doing I stopped being polite and just told them to go away. [Once got out of a car in a car park with a friend of mine, only to realise that there were a group of JW’s a few feet away. Oh crikey, I said to my friend..don’t worry, she replied, we’re safe; they’re only interested if you have a house around you!] The problem is that whoever has a grievance of any kind in this country will be a target for NG, his minders and his chums.
October 24, 2009 at 16:47 #255130Per Graysonscolumn:-
A Pim Fortuyen or Geert Wilders equivalent in this country would probably argue a more seductive, articulate case for their respective vicious mandates.
What exactly is Geert Wilders "vicious mandate" GC?
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