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This thread is really, really, ugly. I’m really shocked at the real glee shining through in some of the posts.
Why is Mac a "Charlatan" Steve? He might not be to your taste, but he knows his stuff.
And well said Mr. Pilsen.
From Wikipaedia
"A charlatan (also called swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of pretense or deception"
Trying to obtain £4 million under the pretense of ageism because someone had the temerity to dispense with his services could be said to fit the bill.
Whilst some may be over the top do you think that had the verdict gone the other way, Mac would not have been doing a fair bit of kicking himself? He has hardly endeared himself to many with his appearances on so called "reality" shows and his outspoken comments either verbal or written have done him no credit whatsoever.
I don’t feel sorry for him at all
I don’t think I’m coming up with anything new but it seems that C4 / IMG handled the whole thing badly (wonder if JM will now try for wrongful dismissal?) and that Highflyer just wanted to keep the status quo and not change anything.
It will be too late to go for wrongful or unfair dismissal. Applications have to be made by 3 months less one day from the day of dismissal.
I was just enjoying a Pot Noodle in my lunch break when you wrote that last bit TAPK, it’s gone straight in the bin.
Sorry Jac,you were eating the one with the Peas in it then?
Big Mac’s got a new day time tv show to present it’s called make and find your own food without spending a penny.
Here’s John making a pea
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4628588679332233&w=205&h=145&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7
Oh, and here again looking for the rest of Trip’s pot noodle
http://www.pix123.com/bettingpro/NewsImages/186412_John-McCririck.jpg
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He had to much baggage ever to say it was purely age which is a shame as I cant help feeling if the other presenter who were sacked had gone to court then maybe it would of been different. C4 racing is really unwatchable now and love him or loathe him Big Mac was never dull. The current presenters offer nothing in personality, give hardly anything towards the racing and the old banter that was there is replaced with sterile chat. Im under 30 which is supposed to be there target audience now and all they have made me do is sign up to RUK
Did you know that it was Mac who came up with the name ‘The Morning Line’ at it’s inception? I do think that the way presenters were ‘dismissed’ was done in an unpleasant and underhand way, especialy as some of the ones that went were the ones that had fought for the programmes continuing existence. And, I suppose that, fan as I’ve always been of Clare Balding it shocked me to find that she was hardly ever presenting the racing and never presenting The Morning Line. If they want to get a few viewers back maybe she should get up in the morning and be there soemtimes. Much as I felt Mac’s case was doomed from the start [and rightly so] I’m beginning to realise that there’s more to the whole thing than meets the eye. Especially as a better programme hasn’t emerged because of it.
This thread is really, really, ugly. I’m really shocked at the real glee shining through in some of the posts.
Why is Mac a "Charlatan" Steve? He might not be to your taste, but he knows his stuff.
And well said Mr. Pilsen.
Another poster has answered your question PC. As for Mac knowing his stuff, I would ask you to provide some evidence of insight he has brought to a program that someone else could not have told us equally as well.
John Mac is a failed bookmaker and a rotten tipster as far as my opinion goes. How hard is it to look at bookmakers boards, see that the fav has come in to 11/8 from 2/1 and then tell viewers "There’s confidence behind the favourite here"? Equally, anyone can check the record books and tell viewers that four out of the last 6 favourites have won the race, so its a good race for favourites, or the last 30 favourites have been beaten, so it’s a terrible race for favourites? A few old fashioned tic-tac signs thrown in and suddenly the man is a must-have for helping you find a winner on a Saturday. Thank god for the mute button, if only there were a visual equivalent on the remote control and a lot of people could enjoy the coverage in peace.
I don’t think it’s Chardonnay-Fraudster (or what ever the the Germans call it) at work on the forum, more a sense of relief that a man with a phoney agenda of going out there to win one for the "gipper" (or was it kipper), when he was trying to line his own pockets in reality, has fallen flat on his not inconsiderably sized "paps"
I suggest you read Betlarge’s post on the other thread, if you can stop skipping and laughing of course. Short memories people have where Mac is concerned.
I apologise for not having half an ounce of nouse.
I also was not aware that his job was to help Steve ‘more than half an ounce of nouse’ Caution or anyone else find a winner. I doubt his job title was ever "tipster".
If that is your definition Steve, who on the show DOES help ‘Your Nousefullness’ find winners?
I agree with most of what Steve says…
Apart from going a little too far in his words.
Value Is EverythingI don’t think I’m coming up with anything new but it seems that C4 / IMG handled the whole thing badly (wonder if JM will now try for wrongful dismissal?) and that Highflyer just wanted to keep the status quo and not change anything.
It will be too late to go for wrongful or unfair dismissal. Applications have to be made by 3 months less one day from the day of dismissal.
Compensation for wrongful or unfair dismissal is subject to a statutory cap of I think £72k. With all the legal fees it is hardly worth it.
Guys, come on, let’s keep it civil.
Not easy to be civil about someone who’d tie Women to the Kitchen sink,handcuff them to the Ironing board and insist on their services at his every whim.I hate to see women abused as much as I love to see Men who deserve a pasting get one!
Hmm. Is saying that anyone who disagrees with you has no "half an ounce of sense", "quality debating skills"?
In typical schoolboy bully fashion Steve, when challenged you either get personal (half an ounce of nouse) or get out of your pram and say you’re leaving the forum.
Poor stuff indeed.
I did like Big Mac. I thought he brought humour and an eccentricity that countered the stiff upper lipped, conservative approach of a Brough Scott or John Lawrence.
Anyone with an ounce of nous knew from the outset that his was a pantomime act. Larger than life, self-deprecating, egregious ( as Peter O’Sullevan called him ), obnoxious, short tempered, knowledgeable – but never, NEVER, Tanya or Tom Lee boring !
However, the act soon wore thin. He became grumpier, the self deprecating slowly turned into self pitying, and the short fuse became shorter still. He became a parody of himself – the act had lost its fizzle. In short, he became out-dated and boring. He should have bowed out graciously and left with with some modicum of dignity. Greed, as with all all those with more money than sense, got the better of him. There was nothing he wouldn’t do to earner a quicker buck than before. The ever willing "Booby" was complicit all the way. Do I feel sorry for him ( or Booby ) ? No ! He has had a very good innings and both live a children free, lavish lifestyle many can only dream of.
As for the juvenile insults directed by posters at each other over differing opinions – I have but one thing to say. For God’s sake, grow up !
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A good post Himself.
And as for myself..
well as Barry Dennis famously
said on these pages racing is
soOOO boring.Big Mac did create a bit of
atmosphere and dare I say
interest. His character needed
to evolve with the times
but he was largely himself
and was not able to.
Like his tic tac he remained
stuck in a time warp.I was one who enjoyed his rudeness
in berating the crowd and his often
direct interviewing style. He had
a pitch of excitement in his voice
which could transfer to a rather
mundane bunch of horses. I never
saw him as a tipster more a
reporter.His dabbling into reality probably
shortened his end, but one thing is
for certain, unlike any other presenter
possibly excepting the voice of racing
Sir Peter O’Sullevan, he is etched into
the memory and history of horse racing
broadcasting.What for him now – no knighthood.
Possibly work on employment tribunals,
or just taking the Booby to Palermo
for putting up with him losing the case,
or maybe a book –MY TIC BECAME TACKY
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