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Big blow for Channel 4 Racing as Derby only pulls in 1.5m

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  • #483710
    no idea
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    I think viewing will continue to fall on C4 as it is just boring.
    People don’t mind going for a day out at the races and losing a few quid, however if you try and introduce anyone new to the sport and you sat down and watched racing, and studied it for say a 3 month period or time with them to explain stuff, I think the person would just say, forget it, its a mugs game.
    Racing always as been and always will be for rich people with huge disposable incomes, hence the name "sport of kings".
    They are not interested in people like us who enjoy a bet and study form and try win a few quid as their end game is far bigger with far more money at stake.
    My 2 daughters cannot undertsand why anyone would go racing and when I take them they dislike it.
    It just does not appeal to them.
    My wife is the same.
    It is difficult to understand unlike football which is sample to understand, tennis is similar sport
    I don’t think racing will suffer though if C4 pull out though as their coverage is terrible

    #483714
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    Someone like Derek Hobson should lead the programme

    Derek Hobson presenting – `New Faces` – how appropriate that would be, preferably with Tony Hatch giving an assessment of another clueless ride from Dettori or Spencer.

    #483722
    Ugly Mare
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    ..blame the sponsor…I think they have a lot to answer for… they usually do…

    #483728
    PRG
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    Someone like Derek Hobson should lead the programme

    Derek Hobson presenting – `New Faces` – how appropriate that would be, preferably with Tony Hatch giving an assessment of another clueless ride from Dettori or Spencer.

    Haha, where did Hobson come from. Showing my age.
    Meant Thomo, of course.

    #483729
    runandskip
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    The good news is that the over rated balding is not on ch4 again until the ebor meeting so the figures should go up!

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    but that means more Nick Luck :(

    #483733
    deep sensation
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    I think it’s worth pointing out that although the number of people actually watching C4 Racing has fallen, their percentage share of the viewing audience has pretty much stayed the same if not gone slightly up.

    What this means is the number of people in the UK watching television at the time of C4 racing as gone down across the board. All TV channels are experiencing a loss.

    Unfortunately we have a trade paper in the Racing Post that has an agenda and they will only report the side of the story that suits them. Bruce Millington wants & needs C4 to fail so he and the RP can get stuck into RMG for their decision to take racing to one channel. Remember Millington doesn’t like RMG because they stopped the RP getting data for free and started charging them.

    If C4 does fail, the only racing that will be on terrestrial TV will be Chelt Fest, GN, Derby & Royal Ascot. I don’t think we want that.

    So stop believing sensationalist headlines from a trade paper that actually believes it in racing’s best interests for C4 to fail!

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    The good news is that the over rated balding is not on ch4 again until the ebor meeting so the figures should go up!

    but that means more Nick Luck

    Same ol, same ol’ negativity and

    ad hominem

    ; meanwhile Cormack’s attempt at a constructive and positive thread

    Your broadcast dream team?

    has had one reply :roll:

    #483744
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    He gets some stick but Chapman clearly loves the game and oozes enthusiasm. Should lead the programme.

    #483776
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    But they all ‘love the game’. We spoke to Nick Luck a few years ago when he’d just got back from the Breeders Cup [should have been talking about NH racing but we were both still buzzing from Zenyatta’s win]. Then met him again at Market Rasen when he was chatting about a horse of his mum’s [a home bred I think; sadly died a year or so later]. It’s the same with most of the Ch4 presenters who have come to our racing club over the years; they all say how lucky they are to be doing a job that they love so much. I wish it came across more on the telly.

    #483827
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    You only have to look at saturdays morning line to see where they are going wrong. The girl who looks after Gordon Lord Byron was given way OTT coverage and she even got prime guest spot on the sofa. As much as she was VERY easy on the eye and a lovely girl all round, ultimately she was just the stable lass of a runner (not even one of the favs) in the big race. Complete waste of time. And who gives a stuff about the restaurant on level five of the granstand? Why devote a feature to that ? Matt Chapman got it right last night at Windor – straight over to the Hog-Roast van !!

    #483829
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    But Gordon Lord Byron is a horse that’s an international traveller from a

    small’ish stable and is quite a favourite amongst racegoers. I honestly think that, whatever Ch4 try to do everyone will critiscise. Even talk now about bringing Thommo back who, I seem to remember, used to get on everyones nerves :?

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    Shack1,

    Had you considered the possibility that the first ten (twenty, thirty?) people they asked to arrive at Ascot no later than 7:15 for a run through of the program before going on air, simply said no thanks, I’ve got better things to do.

    Whereas the stable lass would have the considerable advantage of a) being on site anyway b) having something to do in the five and a half hours between the end of the show and the first race.

    I mean ask yourself, what’s the incentive for anybody serious to appear on a program that is regularly slated online and in social media and has a diminshing audience.

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    Shack1,

    Had you considered the possibility that the first ten (twenty, thirty?) people they asked to arrive at Ascot no later than 7:15 for a run through of the program before going on air, simply said no thanks, I’ve got better things to do.

    Whereas the stable lass would have the considerable advantage of a) being on site anyway b) having something to do in the five and a half hours between the end of the show and the first race.

    I mean ask yourself, what’s the incentive for anybody serious to appear on a program that is regularly slated online and in social media and has a diminshing audience.

    Precisely.
    All filler, no killer.

    #484850
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    It really is no mystery why the viewers are leaving in droves .. Take todays eclipse day show, the main host can’t be botherd to turn up so we have to put up with persad presenting, mick Fitzgerald knows naff all about flat racing but there he is in the "experts" chair and even their main betting person wasent there.
    Then when we get to the eclipse they show a race from haydock 20mins before,show little of the horses in the paddock and the go off air 15mins after the race leaving no time to look back on what was an interesting race to say thevleast!
    It could and should be so much better,it’s like they’ve given up.

    #484869
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    Can only agree with runandskip, for a Group 1 raceday I was staggered that Nick Luck wasn’t hosting C4 yesterday. Rishi Persad was working for the BBC down the road at Wimbledon so why not Clare Balding, and why isn’t Emma Spencer/Balding used more? I’m not C4’s biggest fan (anytime I hear Mick Fitzgerald I turn it off) but yesterday did feel as though they couldn’t be bothered.

    #484878
    deep sensation
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    I will try again – probably wasting my time as it doesn’t fit the argument for the "racing fan". I’m looking forward to the day C4 give up on racing & you are left with very little terristial coverage. Then what will you lot complain about?

    I think it’s worth pointing out that although the number of people actually watching C4 Racing has fallen, their percentage share of the viewing audience has pretty much stayed the same if not gone slightly up.

    What this means is the number of people in the UK watching television at the time of C4 racing as gone down across the board. All TV channels are experiencing a loss.

    Unfortunately we have a trade paper in the Racing Post that has an agenda and they will only report the side of the story that suits them. Bruce Millington wants & needs C4 to fail so he and the RP can get stuck into RMG for their decision to take racing to one channel. Remember Millington doesn’t like RMG because they stopped the RP getting data for free and started charging them.

    If C4 does fail, the only racing that will be on terrestrial TV will be Chelt Fest, GN, Derby & Royal Ascot. I don’t think we want that.

    So stop believing sensationalist headlines from a trade paper that actually believes it in racing’s best interests for C4 to fail!

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