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One that sticks in the memory is Tom Malone (I think) on Quick at Cheltenham circa 2003. The classic case of being ‘given too much rope’, and he made the most of it!
So many great rides to mention but i have to say Steve Cauthens ride on Slip Anchor in the 85 Derby has never been matched! Graham Bradleys ride on Morley St at Aintree when beating his full brother Granville Again on the bridle was memorable.Bruce Raymonds victory on Petong in the Stewards Cup under top weight after winning the Wokingham the same season was another favourite! Jason Titley winning the 95 National on Royal Athlete at 40/1 was my biggest priced winner as i had backed him on advice from Jenny Pitman herself at 66/1! You cant beat a
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hi mate. the best ride ever? my vote goes to the one and only LESTER PIGGOTT on ROYAL ACADEMY in the 1990 breeders cup mile. i watch this over and over because i know i’ll never see the likes of this finish again. nobody but lester would or could have won this race on ROYAL ACADEMY. he hadn’t been outta jail very long when he won this (along with the guineas on rodrigo dt,another great race). as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves. fallon should have been banned from racing for life years ago. that’s another topic though and i digress.
hi mate. the best ride ever? my vote goes to the one and only LESTER PIGGOTT on ROYAL ACADEMY in the 1990 breeders cup mile. i watch this over and over because i know i’ll never see the likes of this finish again. nobody but lester would or could have won this race on ROYAL ACADEMY. he hadn’t been outta jail very long when he won this (along with the guineas on rodrigo dt,another great race). as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves. fallon should have been banned from racing for life years ago. that’s another topic though and i digress.
I’m a huge admirer of the long fellow, although I’d put forward his ride on Teenoso in the King George as a better ride than that on Royal Academy in the BC. There’s a certain irony, however, in someone holding up Lester Piggott as a paragon while denouncing Tony McCoy as a conman, cheat and thief. Someone with a longer memory that me may also be able to put some meat on the bones of a NOTW story some years ago revealing taped conversations of Piggott placing bets against himself winning in the 70’s. I believe Green God was one of the horses involved.
John Goulding Astral Charmer Scottish Grand National
This is a post I made on another thread, appologies to any who have seen it already, there must be an echo on TRF
Astral Charmer , a 66-1 shot, was ridden by the claimer John Goulding, the younger brother of the much better known David Goulding, but by far the better jockey of the two IMO. He was very underated rider and a superb judge of pace from either the front or from way back if the pace was hot. He typified the "stopwatch in the head" expresion. I recall him coming from another parish to win a 3 mile chase on Calbeck at Catterick when everything else went off hell for leather.
Re Astral Charmer, Yes the horse did try to head for the stables going out on the final circuit. I recall the race well, arrived in the bookies when they were coming into the straight first time round, too late for a bet and as soon as I saw who was on the "runaway" leader I was 100% certain the horse would win, pity there was no betting in running in those days.
The lad was brilliant, I never knew why he didn’t become one of National Hunt’s great jockeys, he trained some moderate animals up in Cumbria for a few years then dissapeared off radar.hi mate. the best ride ever? my vote goes to the one and only LESTER PIGGOTT on ROYAL ACADEMY in the 1990 breeders cup mile. i watch this over and over because i know i’ll never see the likes of this finish again. nobody but lester would or could have won this race on ROYAL ACADEMY. he hadn’t been outta jail very long when he won this (along with the guineas on rodrigo dt,another great race). as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves. fallon should have been banned from racing for life years ago. that’s another topic though and i digress.
I’m a huge admirer of the long fellow, although I’d put forward his ride on Teenoso in the King George as a better ride than that on Royal Academy in the BC. There’s a certain irony, however, in someone holding up Lester Piggott as a paragon while denouncing Tony McCoy as a conman, cheat and thief. Someone with a longer memory that me may also be able to put some meat on the bones of a NOTW story some years ago revealing taped conversations of Piggott placing bets against himself winning in the 70’s. I believe Green God was one of the horses involved.
so the pig made a bet against himself winning a race? so? piggott didn’t win on everything he rode you know rory! and therefore i can see no wrong in him taking a few grand of the bookies for having the knowledge that the horse wasn’t good enough to win. sure, lester gave loads of ponies easy rides,on the instuctions of the trainers, but when it came to the big time, the classics and big money races overseas, there was nobody in the world to have on your horses back than the king.
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as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves.
On what basis is it suitable for folks to defame McCoy in this manner on a public forum? Disgraceful!
One high profile and one not so high profile, Vince Slattery on Flagship Colm a few years back, the horse led, was headed but somehow battled back and won.
The other one I would say Run For Free in the Scottish National ridden by Mark Perrett, he got left miles behind at the start but was ridden patiently to pick off the field and win. He beat some great staying chasers that day, I think it was a golden age.as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves.
On what basis is it suitable for folks to defame McCoy in this manner on a public forum? Disgraceful!
you serious? what’s so disgraceful about it? you are obviously shy of listening to the truth, not so me. i tell it as it is and any consequences i’m big enough and powerful enough to face them without fear. that’s not a joke. you suffer from apathy, i don’t. if i see wrongs being done i say my piece. you don’t,end of story.
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the same of Kieren Fallon, Kevvo.
piggott never done a fraction of taking the piss outta the public that fallon did and does. remember the race when he was so far in fron that the horse could have stopped for a crap and still won? and what did fallon do, he dropped his hands and let the other horse win. he’s a rogue that deserves to be kidnapped and beaten to death with a rolled up copy of the sporting life.
One ride I’ll never forget was Ridley Lamb’s on a horse called Run Over. Rounding the home turn, the horse was completely tailed off with about two flights to go. He then appeared out of nowhere to jump the last in the lead and ran away from the opposition like a horse possessed. How on earth Ridley conjured up such an amazing ride from a horse who looked ready to be pulled up, I’ll never know!
One ride I’ll never forget was Ridley Lamb’s on a horse called Run Over. Rounding the home turn, the horse was completely tailed off with about two flights to go. He then appeared out of nowhere to jump the last in the lead and ran away from the opposition like a horse possessed. How on earth Ridley conjured up such an amazing ride from a horse who looked ready to be pulled up, I’ll never know!
Not sure Ridley had much to do with it tbh, although he never gave up. It was the second time that season that Run Over had been tailed off with less than half a mile to run before passing the field. He’d won a Haig Whisky Novices’ Hurdle qualifier at Market Rasen in November 1982 in similar style and took the race you mention, the Ladbroke Novices’ Handicap Hurdle Final at Doncaster in February 1983. The form book suggests he was at least 100 yards behind at one point. A definite contender for Most Bizarre Race.
as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves.
On what basis is it suitable for folks to defame McCoy in this manner on a public forum? Disgraceful!
you serious? what’s so disgraceful about it? you are obviously shy of listening to the truth, not so me. i tell it as it is and any consequences i’m big enough and powerful enough to face them without fear. that’s not a joke. you suffer from apathy, i don’t. if i see wrongs being done i say my piece. you don’t,end of story.
I’m not a fan of McCoy, in fact I tend to avoid horses he rides and I was one of thoseappauled at the decision to put him up on Denman but I’d never question his honesty. His ability? Yes, His judgement? Yes, on more than one occasion but I’ve never heard his integrity questioned before, On what grounds do you base your opinion?
as for any race of mccoys or fallons, i’ll never include anything they have done as i regard them both as conmen and cheats and thieves.
On what basis is it suitable for folks to defame McCoy in this manner on a public forum? Disgraceful!
you serious? what’s so disgraceful about it? you are obviously shy of listening to the truth, not so me. i tell it as it is and any consequences i’m big enough and powerful enough to face them without fear. that’s not a joke. you suffer from apathy, i don’t. if i see wrongs being done i say my piece. you don’t,end of story.
I’m not a fan of McCoy, in fact I tend to avoid horses he rides and I was one of thoseappauled at the decision to put him up on Denman but I’d never question his honesty. His ability? Yes, His judgement? Yes, on more than one occasion but I’ve never heard his integrity questioned before, On what grounds do you base your opinion?
i know when a jock is trying or not. he (or she)can do so many things to try and make it appear as though they are doing their damnest to win a race when all the time they are cheating. it’s easy to do so. a mis-timed run. boxing it in (which goes on more than you realise). a jock can push his arms like a pair of pistons and it would seem that he’s really trying to urge his mount on but he’s going nowhere fast. and let’s not just blame the jocks, the trainers are the ones that give the instructions, the jocks merely follow their orders. horses running below/above their distance.on ground unsuitable for it. only half fit. i could go on but won’t. i just believe that pipe and mccoy are repeat offenders, more so than any other nh trainer/jockey. yeah pal, they’re all at it in some way. are you saying this is a straight sport? surely not?!
yeah pal, they’re all at it in some way. are you saying this is a straight sport? surely not?!
Far from it but "Am I Blue"? No I’m happy to pick and choose the least likely offenders.
I’ve been watching racing for close on fifty years so I do know what I’m seeing, my advice would be stick to valuable races where the prize money is sufficiant to make winning more worth while than cheating, Hunter Chases where it’s more about the glory than the cash and/or find a few jockeys/trainer combos to trustI’d start with Dermot Weld/Pat Smullen, Enda Bolger/Nina Carberry, I’d trust Ruby Walsh to get the best out of a ride and I’ve never doubted Venetia Williams’ integrity but there’s plenty out there….even for a sceptic like yourself
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