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My observation would be that Fibresand specialists go on Fibresand and the rest don’t, but on the rare occasions when a horse runs right up to form when trying the surface for the first time, said creature has usually shown the ability to handle very soft or heavy turf.
If I was a punter, I wouldn’t even consider a horse making its Fibresand debut without such evidence. [edit – I mean an exposed horse]
It does also seem that horses can get used to the surface if persisted with.
The consistency and the depth of fibresand seems to have changed since the flood. The surface is much deeper, the texture and composition of the track much more difficult for the horses to run through; fields of moderate horses are finishing strung out like three mile chasers.
I wouldn’t be surprised if average times had slowed in the past year in comparison to previous years.
The other thing I’ve been far too slow to notice is that horses who stay further than the advertised distance of a race are winning races at shorter trips than those to which they are accustomed. The punted Xpres Maite on Tuesday and Jordie Roper today were both racing at a significantly shorter trip than usual and their stamina came into play at the business end of the race.
I appreciate that to overcome the frost they had harrowed more than usual but from a visual impression it reminded me of those races seen at Aquaduct where they are running through the slush.
If you dont like AW racing dont watch it, nobody is forcing you.
Same principle as TV programs eh Firefox?
Thats unfair Paul. Everything is not black and white in life. My complaint about said programme was it might be upsetting to folk who have had their houses repossessed. Unless I am missing something here the objections to AW racing are not on any grounds other than elitism and snobbery. Though I may be wrong.
There is no MAY about it firefox…you are 100% wrong.
It is no secret I am no great lover of AW racing – it has its place but I do find the sheer volume depressing, especially when, as now, there is no alternative.
My objections certainly do not revolve around the betting – indeed as a betting medium it is very good. Looking at my betting for last year I returned a 23% profit on investment on the AW, better than NH and far better than turf flat where I made a loss.
Neither am I overly concerned about the general low quality of the racing – I have seen some very exciting low grade AW races – there were a couple of cracking finishes at Kempton on Wednesday – especially the last two races (granted the penultimate race was a Class 2).
What I really don’t like is it is all much of a muchness with all the racing effectively taking place on an artificial oval circuit. There is so little variety – frankly it gets boring after a while – which I why I haven’t been able to face going to more than two meetings this week.
At least with our turf courses there is plenty of variety.
I should also add that for me the betting aspect is not of primary importance – if I was told I could never have a bet again then it would not worry me and I would still go racing as often as I do now, so that may fuel my antipathy towards AW racing. If my priority was the betting I may well have a more favourable disposition towards it.
I also accept the Simon’s of this world think it is fantastic – and good luck to them.
Wouldn’t life be boring if we all liked the same thing?
I would suggest the biggest problem with the AW at Kempton is how far away from the enclosures the track is – also the floodlighting system is such it is very difficult indeed to follow a race through bins.
Great Leighs may be the nearest we have to a US track – but at least at every US track I have been to you can actually watch the racing.
………….frankly it gets boring after a while……
Which is usually about 4 seconds after they’ve left the paddock for the first race………
………….frankly it gets boring after a while……
Which is usually about 4 seconds after they’ve left the paddock for the first race………
4 seconds – that is a well impressive tolerance threshold – you obviously haven’t seen the paddock at Wolverhampton
………….frankly it gets boring after a while……
Which is usually about 4 seconds after they’ve left the paddock for the first race………
4 seconds – that is a well impressive tolerance threshold – you obviously haven’t seen the paddock at Wolverhampton
To be fair, I’m not really paying attention for the last 3.5 seconds……
Firefox, you might be interested in this:-
Up to yesterday, there have been 13 meetings on the AW. There have been 31 winning favourites (including co-favs) and 55 losing ones resulting in a 36% strike rate. The average S/P was barely 6/4 and LSP to £1 bets was -£13.85.
These are my own statistics and may not be 100% accurate. Winning favourites information was freely available under ‘courses’ on the old RP website, however, it appears to have gone. Can anybody tell me if and where it is on the new website?
Thanks.
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