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Of the current crop of trainers
who would come close to Barney.
I am thinking of how he would get
one ready and land it at a good
price. Or are these days gone.Heresy to many, but I was never a fan.
He once accused John McCririck of being one of the biggest takers out in racing.
I found that a bit rich – Barney Curley was a massive taker out of the game.
I suppose he was good if you were in on the plan or could second guess him.
But when he landed a gamble it wasn’t just the bookmakers who were turned over – it was the punters backing anything else in the race.
And all the charity work in the world doesn’t compensate for that.
Best I can say is he was very good at what he did – if you like that sort of thing.
But if every trainer operated the way he did, I wouldn’t even be interested in racing.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Fair comment.
Please understand I wasn’t praising the man.
Just asking the question.
Kind regards.I would say there are still a fair few out there lining horses up for gambles.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"More difficult today I would think, modern communications are so efficient.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysJim Goldie and Keith Dalgliesh both like banging in doubles or trebles in , Jim loves a big price e.w esp at Newcastle
Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026
I’m with Ian on this.
I’ve never liked the way the media and some punters laud these plot jobs when they come off
If the majority of the racing public don’t know that this horse that’s done nothing all season is about to be backed down from 20s into 5-2 favourite and win easily then we’re being conned.
Exactly – I’ve never understood some punters lauding it either.
They weren’t in on it, most will have lost money betting on something else in the race (unless they spend the whole year betting blind on horses from these yards and then losing fortunes watching them have a school round at the back) – it’s like turkeys voting for Christmas.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Charles Byrnes once landed a big priced treble at a small Irish track with three horses that had shown very little but then got punted off the boards.
It’s probably unfair to associate Barney Curley with Josef Stalin but they do share a common factor. Both spent time studying for the priesthood before embarking upon widely differing career paths.
Which of the pair was most successful is surely a judgement call but, while Stalin certainly did very well for himself, it’s noteworthy that he never landed a prodigious gamble at Bellewstown while watching proceedings from behind a gorse bush.
Brilliant.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Laura Morgan, who else?
Maybe Emmet Mullins when he has two or three lined up for a gamble at a smaller Irish summer track.
I think Laura Morgan is brilliant.
It’s not hard to see what she’s got planned and I’ve no issue with the lady.
A 3m Irish Point winner who then runs in three 2m Novice Hurdles to get a mark then goes straight into a 3m Novice Handicap Chase on handicap debut is as clear a steer as a phone call telling you the horse is fancied.
I have a simple rule on integrity – if I can work out what a trainer has planned by using the form book and common sense, there’s nothing wrong with it.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“If the majority of the racing public don’t know that this horse that’s done nothing all season is about to be backed down from 20s into 5-2 favourite and win easily then we’re being conned.”
Perfectly said, almost impossible to make a profit betting on midweek racing because of this. And even then in the big Saturday handicaps half the field are plot jobs and the other half are non-triers, good luck guessing which is which!
MAYPOLE CROSS Carlisle 4.05
Last completed race at Fakenham December 2020
Pulled up in the Paddy power at Cheltenham last year.
FiguresF20-7321-2P011-PPP-P1
This horse last won a class 3 off 125 for which he was raised to 133. In four subsequent races over an entire year failed to complete in three class 3 and one class 1 race returning P.P.P.P. before being declared a non runner on course last month due to the ground, fittingly on April 1st the date of it’s planned comeback.
Duly returning today on a mark of 122 dropped in class with a 7lb claimer on board.So this horse has never disproved the rating of 133 it was given for winning its last completed race in 2020 and won today in a class four.
Perverse as it may seem rather than take the seven pound claim off the horse’s weight I’d add it to the rating and I’d say we’ve got a 140 horse running there in addition to the weight off it’s back.
Regardless, the horse won at 16/1.
Any thoughts ?
I didn’t back it, I never saw it.I always took an interest in Richard Lee’s yard before he handed over to his daughter.
He appeared to have a nice price
winner late November/December.
The lads used to say he was getting his Christmas money.Cork, Davy rode all three of them I think.
Another trainer who used to peak in November and December and then at the Festival was Josh Gifford.
Maypole Cross comes from a very shrewd stable that never offers any proper explanations about the improvement shown.
I also find it quite annoying when horses from a certain stable shown inconsistent form throughout the year and then all of sudden the gamble is landed. This really applies to the Emmet Mullins stable. You can never be confident about a horse unless there is a huge amount of money on it. Form never matters when they decide to let one go.
He never thought Noble Yeats would get even close of winning the National when you look at his face and the post-race reactions. I guess that’s why he was 50/1. But it was a gamble that got away.
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