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<b>A.P Warrior ex Amizette – Warrior Song</b>
Danehill Dancer ex Bex – Sherwood Forest
<b>Danehill Dancer ex Eliza – Samuel Morse</b>
Danehill Dancer ex Juno Madonna – Card Trick
<b>Danehill Dancer ex Speaksoftlytome – Snow Mountain</b>
<b>Danehill Dancer ex Starship – Alexander Pope</b>
Danehill Dancer ex Surval – Diamond Brooch (filly)
<b>Danehill Dancer ex Wannabe – Pirateeer</b>
Danehill Dancer ex Well Spoken – Chrysanthemum (Filly)
Danehill Dancer ex Woman Secret – (filly)
<b>Danehill Dancer ex Zibeline – Oracle
Dansili ex Cayman Sunset – Tom Sawyer</b>
Dansili ex Tyranny – Zoffany[/color:3vlyevjz]
Encosta De Lago ex Aim For The Top – Looking Glass Bay
<b>First Samurai ex Preach – President Lincoln</b>
Footstepsinthesand ex Chaturanga – Ruling
Galileo ex Arazena –
<b>Galileo ex Ardbrae Lady – Jackaroo</b>
Galileo ex Banquise – Robin Hood
Galileo ex Beauty Bright – Mist (Filly)[/b:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Butterfly Cove – Misty For Me (Filly)[/color:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Charroux – Apache[/color:3vlyevjz]
<b>Galileo ex Dietrich – Eskimo</b>
Galileo ex Doula – Amazing Beauty (Filly)
<b>Galileo ex Halland Park Lass – Enchanted Forest</b>
Galileo ex Hanami – Jungle Book
Galileo ex Hideaway – Long Live The King
<b>Galileo ex Honorine – Treasure Beach</b>
Galileo ex Jessicas Dream – Moons Of Jupiter
<b>Galileo ex Kincob – Gemstone (Filly)</b>
Galileo ex Kitza – Amen[/color:3vlyevjz]
<b>Galileo ex Litani River – (Filly)</b>
Galileo ex Maroochydore – Marksmanship
<b>Galileo ex Mermaid Island – Poinsettia (Filly)</b>
Galileo ex Mona Lisa – Just Incredible (Filly)
Galileo ex Monumental Gesture – Wild West
Galileo ex My Emma – Admiral Of The Red
<b>Galileo ex Parvenue – Luxurious (Filly)</b>
Galileo ex Pieds De Plume – Spin (Filly)[/color:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Play Misty For Me –
Galileo ex Quiet Mouse – First Sea Lord[/color:3vlyevjz]
<b>Galileo ex Rumplestiltskin – Why (Filly)</b>
Galileo ex Secret Garden – Roderic O’Connor[/color:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Shadow Song – Together( Filly)[/color:3vlyevjz]
<b>Galileo ex Sitara – Harrison’s Cave</b>
Galileo ex Silverskaya – Sevillie[/color:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Skidmore Girl – Brave Hearted
Galileo ex Sophisticat – Diogenes
Galileo ex St Roch – Humphrey Bogart
Galileo ex Tadkiyra -Sam Lord’s Castle[/color:3vlyevjz]
Galileo ex Warrior Queen –
Giants Causeway ex Saudia –
Hennessy ex Misty Hour – Tandoori (filly)
Holy Roman Emperor ex Coralita – Imperator Augustus
<b>Holy Roman Emperor ex Gilded Edge – Emperor Hadrian
Holy Roman Emperor ex Khamseh – Petronius Maximus</b>
<b>Holy Roman Emperor ex Miletrian – Inca Princess (filly)</b>
H<b>oly Roman Emperor ex Monevassia – Catherineofaragon (filly)</b>
<b>Holy Roman Emperor ex Royal Ballerina – Juliet Capulet (filly)</b>
<b>Holy Roman Emperor ex Sanctify – (filly)</b>
<b>Holy Roman Emperor ex Starlight Dream – Queen Of Spain (filly)</b>
Holy Roman Emperor ex Willowbridge – Rex Romanorum
<b>Hurricane Run ex Cute Cait – Freedom</b>
Hurricane Run ex Daspectra – Sloane Street (Filly)
<b>Hurricane Run ex Hit The Sky – Memphis Tennesse</b>
Hurricane Run ex The Faraway Tree – Barbican
<b>Johannesburg ex Dreamy Maiden -</b>
Johanessburg ex Tacha – (Filly)
Kingmambo ex All Too Beautiful – (Filly)
Kingmambo ex Baraka – Pale Moon Rising (Filly)
Kingmambo ex Imagine – (filly)
Kingmambo ex Legend Maker – (filly)
Kingmambo ex Quarter Moon –
<b>Kingmambo ex Silk And Scarlet -</b>
<b>Montjeu ex Alasana – Eagle Canyon</b>
Montjeu ex Cash Run – Pirate Chest
Montjeu ex Catherine Linton – Monte Carlo
Montjeu ex Colourspin – Justification
Montjeu ex Crafty Example – Scribe
Montjeu ex Dibenoise
Montjeu ex Fast Style –
<b>Montjeu ex Goncharova – Brittany</b>
<b>Montjeu ex Janet – Auguste Renoir</b>
Montjeu ex Metaphor – Entourage
Montjeu ex Prove – Malinowski
Montjeu ex Red Azalea – Pawnee
<b>Montjeu ex Spacecraft – Exodus</b>
Montjeu ex Welsh Love -National Flag
<b>Mr Greeley ex Lady Carla –
Mr Greeley ex Song To Remember – Park Avenue</b>
<b>Oasis Dream ex Maganda – Rudolf Valentino</b>
<b>Oratorio ex Fayre – Fairylike (Filly)</b>
Peintre Celebre ex Wavey – She’s A Queen (Filly)
Pivotal ex Dame Hester – Paint Your Wagon
<b>Sadlers Wells ex Lyrical – Make My Heart Sing (Filly)</b>
Sadlers Wells ex Mariahs Storm – Love Me Only (Filly)
Sadlers Wells ex Reina Blanca – Notion
<b>Smart Strike ex Adoration – Outrider</b>
Storm Cat ex Fountain of Peace – (filly)
<b>Storm Cat ex Love Me True – (filly)</b>
Storm Cat ex Virginia Waters – Ballroom (filly)
<b>Storm Cat ex Starry Dreamer Factum</b>"Bold non Group 1 Horses
Light Blue for Group 1 Performers
Red Dewhurst Entries that have not run yet
Orange(Won Maidens at Top Track)"Gallileo 36
Kingmambo 6
Montjeu 15
Mr Greeley 2
Danehill Dancer 10
Dansili 2
Holy Roman E’r 10
Oasis Dream 1
Hurricane Run 5
Pivotal 1
Storm Cat 4
Smart Strike 1
Sadlers Wells 3
A P Warrior 1
Johannesburg 2
First Samurai 1
Peintre Celeb 1
Encosta de lago 1
Footstepsinthesand 1
Oratorio 1Total 89 15 = 104 2yos
15 Montjeu’s
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Oasis Dream-Maganda
700,000 Guineas Purchase
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Galileo-Kitza
The youngster’s dam, 1998 Irish Oaks and 1,000 Guineas runner-up Kitza.
600,000 Guineas Purchase
Galileo-Shadow Song
280,000 Purchase Half Sister to Jan Vermeer
Smart Strike-Adoration
Twice Group 1 winner the dam winning over 1.2 Million in prizemoney
Kingmambo-Quarter Moon
Full Brother to You’ll Be Mine
Galileo-Tadkiyra
550,000 Guineas Purchase…Darshaan Mare
So Many pedigree’s
.I leave the rest….their a few standouts. Best wait until we see the track performance’s
Oracle
Samuel Morse
Emperor Hadrianall entered up on Sunday.
We can scratch does from the 104 list
Sameul Morse is bred from a NH jumper?
I think a good Flat horse could be bred from a jumper.
Vision d’Etat and others would indicate that class is class, and some horses are more versatile than we give them credit for.
Plus how else to start weeding through such a massive list…
Interesting to see a First Samurai there (I suppose it is indirect support for Giant’s Causeway). And the Encosta – are there any of his offpsring (presumably all Southern hemi-born) that would be the right age to qualify for the Northern hemi juvenile races? And developed enough?
15 Montjeu’s . Seems very light for their Best Stallion
While I agree with you (that Montjeu is their best stallion), I sometimes get the feeling that Coolmore doesn’t quite see it that way, and think Galileo has more promise. Partially (probably) because Galileo has shown he can get some winners at <12f, while Montjeu is well and truly perceived as a 12f and more sire. Let’s see if SNA can change that…
I may be completely out of range but I think that with Montjue they face the problem of being left with a bunch of Montjue mares which are useless .
Okay the reason so few Montjeu’s is that Galileo needs a massive boost commercially.
Montjeu
St Nicholas Abbey
Jan VermeerDanehill Dancer
Lillie Langtry
Alfred NobelGalileo had Cape Blanco who looks okay so far but not the same league as Montjeu’s titans. Coolmore also have nothing of Galileo’s progeny…they have Rip Van Winkle and Age Of Aquarius only one can retire to stud and get a big fee.
Montjeu has retired son’s such as Hurricane Run and Fame And Glory soon aswell as their 2 2yr old above. Basically they have a huge bunch of Galileo’s in order to get a good decent chance of geting a good stallion from them and you prob need around 10(Group 1) on track to produce 1 top class stallion.
See makes sense when i think about it
I may be completely out of range but I think that with Montjue they face the problem of being left with a bunch of Montjue mares which are useless
Sounds like you
are
completely out of range. How exaclty would broodmares by one of the top (maybe THE top) European sires be useless? If Montjeu is at all like his sire (and there are indications that he is), he will be passing on class and upgrading most of his offspring.
Basically they have a huge bunch of Galileo’s in order to get a good decent chance of geting a good stallion from them
Wallace, it is a nice theory, but I am not convinced. Let’s think this through.
Up until a few months ago (i.e. the time these purchases were made), you would have said that High Chaparral needed the boost much more than Galileo. I think Galileo has a lot of fans, including Jim Bolger who almost single-handedly revived Galileo’s early commercial (i.e. speed-loving) reputation which was suffering from the prominence of staying horses amongst his offspring (Red Rocks, Sixties Icon). Teofilo, New Approach, Lush Lashes all showed that Galileo could get high quality juveniles and performers under 12f.
If boosting their stallions was the sole/driving purpose of their purchase policy, wouldn’t High Chap or Rock of G have a higher profile in their purchases? Wouldn’t they be more interested in the best prospects, regardless of their sire (or almost-regardless of their sire, they aren’t going to go buy a Cape Cross now, no matter how stupid that may look in retrospect)? Their history suggests that they have been exceptionally canny in buying horses that will make great stallions. On the other hand, their purchase policy has certainly contributed to making the stallions they own overdominant…
Can’t decide.
Olebahram, Regarding Montjeu I don’t believe that Montjeu has gotten one Group One filly or mare. Now the last thing Coolmore needs is to take a chance on ending up with a bunch of loser, no good fillies.You have a fifty fifty chance of getting a filly from Montjeu and that is the problem.That is the Montjue curse.Useless fillies running with their head cocked and their tale swishing.
Andyod, 2 problems with that theory.
(1) Coolmore are buying most of their horses, so if that is a concern, they can just choose not to buy Montjeu females. Doesn’t explain why they aren’t buying more Montjeu colts.
(2) You have a point that most of Montjeu’s best performers (and all at the highest level) have been colts, but I don’t think the fillies are useless. For example, Clowance came close to a few G1s last year, and may manage better this year. Again, I think it could be similar to his sire, where you had to wade through scores of G1-winning colts before spotting the occasional Salsabil or Islington. Sires of sires like SW and Danehill had far better sons than daughters, but they usually upgraded their daughters as well, since we also see them prominently on the Broodmare Sires lists (just with more of a time lag). I think the same may happen with Montjeu.
A wise policy to buy the Montjeu sons and avoid the daughters. At least half the fee should be returned, if a filly, at owner option.Trouble is who wants to put out money to train her? Is Montjeu a broodmare sire of value?
"Up until a few months ago (i.e. the time these purchases were made), you would have said that High Chaparral needed the boost much more than Galileo. I think Galileo has a lot of fans, including Jim Bolger who almost single-handedly revived Galileo’s early commercial (i.e. speed-loving) reputation which was suffering from the prominence of staying horses amongst his offspring (Red Rocks, Sixties Icon). Teofilo, New Approach, Lush Lashes all showed that Galileo could get high quality juveniles and performers under 12f."
Problem is with that Ole is that High Chaparral and Rock of Gibraltar aren’t very good and Coolmore have completely given up on Rock as he is useless. I would expect he could be sold to the middle east sooner or later. Also another thing with that theory Coolmore INC don’t own any of the best Galileo’s.(New approach,teofilo,Lush Lashes, Cuis Ghaire,60’s icon, Purple Moon,Kitewood, Chabal, Alandi). Of the Galileo’s they have they only have Rip Van Winkle. For housing as they think the best Sire in the world( I disagree Montjeu is imo) they have very little return. They reason they invest so much as Yearling is to avoid paying 20 Million for a Dud sire. I expect that the whole procedure next year is to get a 2-3 real Group 1 Galileo’s and work from their. The law of averages suggest they will get at least 1. Galileo is a huge sire but Coolmore INC Have little return Progeny wise
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