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  • #270389
    Grimes
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    Is it unrealistic to think he Mikael could yet run in the Champion Hurdle? He looked up to it last year, imho.

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    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    The plight of Mikael…
    Mikael D’Haguenet continues to make just slow progress as we strive to get him back to the racetrack. The splints he had just seem to have unbalanced him somewhat, and he has aches and pains in different places. He’s such a big horse, it’s taking time for him to find his feet again.

    We’re not finding it easy to keep him right, which, needless to say, is not good in the month of January. At this stage, having him fit enough to go to Cheltenham will be a tough ask, but I’m still looking forward to sending him chasing in the coming months

    source: http://www.goracing.ie/Content/HRI/hritemp4.aspx

    highly likely he won’t be at the festival

    #270403
    moehat
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    Would’ve thought it would make more sense to give him a year out rather than rush him back. However, don’t know much if anything about splints. If the horse is suffering from ‘aches and pains’ [know the feeling] a nice summer on his back should do him the world of good if they just keep him ticking over ready for the autumn.

    #270417
    hooper27
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    An Cathaoir Mor a boost to Zaarito as I knew it wud be

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    The plight of Mikael…
    Mikael D’Haguenet continues to make just slow progress as we strive to get him back to the racetrack. The splints he had just seem to have unbalanced him somewhat, and he has aches and pains in different places. He’s such a big horse, it’s taking time for him to find his feet again.

    We’re not finding it easy to keep him right, which, needless to say, is not good in the month of January. At this stage, having him fit enough to go to Cheltenham will be a tough ask, but I’m still looking forward to sending him chasing in the coming months

    source: http://www.goracing.ie/Content/HRI/hritemp4.aspx

    highly likely he won’t be at the festival

    Well spotted that man!A very useful source!Shame about Mikael,looks like he could be one of those world beaters that never sees the track unfortunately!

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    If Mikael, and Hurricane Fly both fail to make it to Cheltenham, it would be a dreadful blow for the sport itself. I am particularly concerned about the future of Mikael, as the lack of response to his treatment is alarming.

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    Thanks Aido and Hooper re Zaarito.

    If I am going to back him Ante Post I will do so before next Sunday. Prefer to back runners that are 90% certain to turn up on the day so we’ll see. Its weighing up better odds against money down the pan with no run.

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    Thanks Aido and Hooper re Zaarito.

    If I am going to back him Ante Post I will do so before next Sunday. Prefer to back runners that are 90% certain to turn up on the day so we’ll see. Its weighing up better odds against money down the pan with no run.

    Doug,you have a smart recruit to fencing in Zaarito,his form boosted today,his run against Go Native last year when jt fav with that horse shows the esteem he is held in by his trainer,2nd to the Captain reads well,he looks the Chasing type who could go further in trip though,that would be my only doubt about his Arkle chances,particularly on faster ground! 27 on the machine is tight when you can get 25/1 on the high st,he certainly caught my eye in the Bumper a couple of years ago and apparently his trainer was never happy with him last year! Get on and be a risk taker,if he wins the Irish Arkle next week he will be about 10/1 and he has been to the festival before which bodes well! Good luck!

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    Just browsing at Paddy Power prices for the Arkle; I may have found what I believe to be good e/w value. Noble Alan, at 40/1. Classy animal when things go right, and the better ground at Cheltenham will suit him much better than what he’s been running on. Any opinions anyone?

    #270611
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    Agree that Noble Alan is potentially overpriced at 40-1+ but think he’d be better on a flat track and may head straight to Aintree. Nicky Richards often targets Aintree over Cheltenham. This is just my opinion though.

    Right I am going in for Zaarito "on the machine". If he runs in the first 2 in the Irish Arkle then that 27 will half and I could always lay off to ensure I dont suffer a loss. Time to take a chance.

    #270614
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    So your the reason its trading at 22/1 at the mo…..well for your sake I hope you did get on 27s.
    Was going to top up on the 33s again but missed it, Im still hoping a local indie will give me 33s though.
    I have plenty on at this stage too though an average of 90 on the machine that Im very happy with

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    Agree that Noble Alan would be of more interest at Aintree than at Cheltenham; whilst on the subject of the Aintree GN festival, I think if Ferdy Murphy has finally sorted out the quirks of The Hollinwell, he could have a live chance at one of the 2 and a half mile chases that week :wink:

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    The best of luck to all those wading in on big prices about Zaarito. I just cant see any reason why he should reverse form with captain cee bee. He was beaten by a half fit CCB coming back from a very long lay off on ground that CCB depised. Cant see how he will reverse things on better ground, considering CCB has festival winning form also, unlike Zaarito.

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    Shaund, hes E/W value. And, he was never right last year, he still has the potential, and his jumping looks safer than Captain Cee Bees. Im not saying he will reverse form, but there are plenty of reasons why he might.

    #270649
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    Reverse the form with CCB?
    Look back at the race if Townend was allowed to try everything to win that race it would have easy. Strict orders to get the horse round that day and not kill it.
    CCB was backed from 5s into 4s before the off, after Xmas Harty wanted to give it a break after its 2 runs.
    So unless you have info it was half fit Id say ur very wrong there. I know it was along break but with no bounce factor in the next the long break never effected a best fresh CCB.
    An Cathaoir Mor frankin both there form shows that race was of high quality again proving CCB was not half fit.
    Both horses had plenty of improvement though not just CCB

    #270657
    shaund10
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    You got to love this sometimes! Backed from 5’s into 4’s as a sign of confidence! He actually drifted from 13/8 out to 4/1 on the day. His trainer clearly said he was only out to get around.

    Add into that CCB proven Cheltenham form. IMO the difference in ground alone from heavy to g/s will put 15 lenghts betwwen the horses. People dont realise how important the ground is to CCB.

    Aido, you say he might not reverse the form, but is good e/w value. I presume you recommend backing for a place then. Ok, so 3 place betting, id presume he’s around about the 5/1 mark at the moment. Factor into that the very real chance that he will not run. That he’s already held on form by CCB for one place. That form ties closely with Sizing Europe. Also factor in the quality of the field, and Zaarito’s last festival performance. 5/1 doesnt look so tempting anymore.

    #270660
    hooper27
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    Do you just look at results and not look for unlucky horses who would have done a lot better if things were done differently. To say Zaarito doesnt have Cheltenham form is ludacris.
    99% of ppl who analysed that bumper will tell you how bad a ride Russell gave it, the amount of ground Zaarito made up to finish third was very very impressive.
    Zaarito goes on any ground too mate.
    CCB was friendless at xmas too, no money for it were there was the first day, last min gambles are the shrewd ones

    Your discounting the improvement that Zaarito has since then and has still left in him

    Im a fan of CCB backed it at xmas imo both have massive potential Zaarito moreso, hopefully

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