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- September 13, 2021 at 21:02 #1560423
“Not sure I can see any “hate” (a very strong word) here.”
Just a figure of speech along the lines of moaning, whingeing, complaining, etc.
September 13, 2021 at 21:09 #1560424Cashed out my Adayar bet due to the setback. Dunno if he’ll turn up, for all we know Buick might ride Hurricane Lane coz of it.
So Tarnawa 5s and Snowfall 10s are my ew plays.
September 14, 2021 at 02:31 #1560438Couldn’t agree more with that statement, LD. For example, look at Bullet Train and Frankel, even the “great” one needed one.
September 17, 2021 at 07:46 #1560732Snowfalls defeat makes it a much bigger price for the lads. She had just a canter in the race and will be sharp for the arc. I can see her and tarnawa ripping it up in the last two furlongs.Id slightly favour tarnawa but if snowfalls kick is delivered at the right time she could well win. The easier ground will definitely help and the fast ground hasn’t been to her liking. On good to soft I can see her being much better than last two runs. Tarnawa handles it too so should be a race to savour. I hope there will be no hard luck stories but I’m sure there will. Those two in the forecast will pay a tidy sum.
September 17, 2021 at 08:08 #1560733“Those two in the forecast will pay a tidy sum.”
No it won’t, because Adayar will be five lengths clear of them.
September 17, 2021 at 17:13 #1560768Turkoman – I don’t think Frankel actually needed big brother to be his pacemaker as 2000g and 1st Sussex Stakes win showed he was more than capable of doing it himself but connections felt it suited him better not to have to.
Back to the Arc – got no investment in it myself but I think a lively outsider would be Alenquer at a far too big 33s, his run against Mishriff over a too short 10F was great and I think you can excuse his prior run behind HL as he was given an impossible task tactically – he has winning form on good, soft and heavy ground and will likely fly under the radar as focus remains on the big four.
Will be interesting to see if Aiden runs any ‘pacemaker’ types, which if he does I will assume that Snowfall will be glued to their tail to ensure they go fast enough
September 22, 2021 at 21:36 #1561223Snowfall best horse O’Brien has ever trained, no mistakes will be made on the day
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September 24, 2021 at 15:19 #1561361Buick picks Adayar for the Arc – to me this is a no-brainer in sticking with the Derby/King George winner who will be going into the race a fresh horse for his 5th run of the season against a horse that (if he runs) will be having his 7th run of the season and off the back of a gruelling run in the Leger which is a notoriously bad race to use as a prep for an Arc.
A part of me hopes for quick ground which would likely rule Hurricane Lane out of the race as I think they are going to the well one too many times and they should now rough him off for the year (I was originally thinking the Champion Stakes could be an alternative as it gave him additional time to recover and would likely be on softer ground) but I think he has done enough and they should now be looking to his 4 yr old season instead.
September 27, 2021 at 00:51 #1561628I’m really looking forward to this race with anticipation, it has a real 1986 feel to it as far as I’m concerned.
Since the Derby I’ve been fully in the Hurricane Lane camp and I’m really pleased he is taking his chance, he fully deserves it.
I believe it will be a race to savor for the memory box, I hope we’re not disappointed.
September 27, 2021 at 01:37 #1561632I just hope the jockeys don’t overthink the tactics or we could see an outsider win the race.
September 27, 2021 at 10:01 #1561643I remember my first impression of Grand Prix De Paris was that Buick rode the race very smartly given the way the majority of French races play out, whereas, Alenquer had far too much to do. Buick used the Ballydoyle tactics well, and won with ease, with the front 3 from early on, finishing the front 3. Alenquer finished the best and i think it’s fair to see he was the clear 2nd best that day.
Since then, Alenquer has been dropped in trip, which isn’t what i was expecting and he shaped well enough.
Isn’t he a tad big at 33s?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 27, 2021 at 14:58 #1561656Id agree with all of that Jack
September 28, 2021 at 16:40 #1561755Is it raining in France yet??
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September 28, 2021 at 17:21 #1561761I know that there’s a doubt over her participation, but I bet Raabihah today at 33-1 ew
September 28, 2021 at 21:28 #1561787If reports are correct
it has been confirmed in the French press that she runs Kris.Sounds like Sheik Hamdam’s daughter has given the go ahead.September 28, 2021 at 22:08 #1561789Latest forecast now suggesting dry up until Friday when they could get 1mm and Saturday they could get 1-2mm but Sunday is now showing they could get 10-12mm which if true will turn the ground soft from its current good to soft, good in places.
September 29, 2021 at 10:13 #1561803I think the forgotten horse in the race is Mojo Star. His runners-up
in the Derby and St Leger weren’t flukes and if Kirby hadn’t squeezed
through up the rail on Adayar he could have been a Derby winner. I think
the 66/1 is bonkers, he’ll cope well with soft ground and is a relentless
galloper. He must have a great chance of a place at least.Mojo Star 66/1 e/w (or 50/1 e/w 4 places Betvictor)
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