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Anyone else feel this Flat season has been a shambles from a punters perspective

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    GM23
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    I’m not a great fan of the flat anyway. It’s more a business than a sport in my opinion.

    That being said, this season so far, has been a joke. Don’t think I’ve ever seen so many top class horses folding tamely in races. It’s a bookies wonderland currently.

    I don’t bet much on it anyway vs National Hunt but will definitely be holding back even more over the next few weeks to see if things improve.

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    Avatar photoRefuse To Bend
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    I started off okay but I’m not a favourite backer anyway.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Early days.

    Not sure people on this forum know what they want.

    Jumps we were told was uncompetitive
    Flat we are now told is too unpredictable

    Not having a pop at you GM23 as I value your views

    It just seems whatever happens each season in both codes there is something to grumble about

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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    It was only going OK but I had a good result at York, so no complaints about the season from me. Although City Of Troy at 16/1 was obviously a disappointment!

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    Mike007
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    From June onwards when horses have run and form lines start to take shape i find it becomes a bit easier. Before that horse fitness isn’t certain.

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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    I love the flat and usually this is my best time of year but this year I’ve never been so down on my bets. The form just isn’t working out.
    Usually The Craven Meeting and Guineas meeting throw up valuable clues but this year it’s been all over the place.
    :wacko:
    Time to take a deep breath and a step back.
    Where are the future Champions for this year 🔭 I’m struggling to name one. :scratch: Jac

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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    I am staying positive though. :rose:

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    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    I 100% agree with Mike’s logical post. Makes a lot of sense.

    I’ve had a shaky start to the season whereas my brother won just over £1,600 around 3 weeks ago.

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    By far the majority of my bets are in handicaps and sticking to what I know and using the same methods I’ve perfected I know work so far 24% up meaning no complaints from me.
    One thing I will say this year is that O’Brien’s runners in this country have been more of a benefit to the bookies than punters.
    good luck to all

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Most of the G1s seem to be won by horses at 20/1 and above. I can’t remember which year yielded that much profit for the bookies as this one.

    Maybe the breed and times are changing and everything becomes harder to predict. I don’t see that many reliable horses going for more than one season. The days when Sir Michael used to dominate with his 4-year olds plus are long gone, imo.

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    I think Jac’s hit the nail on the head, not really talking about punting here because everyone has a different approach as Nath touched upon. I can’t really think of many superstars in training on the flat so it is hard to be bullish about any of them. I wouldn’t be confident in the winners of the respective Guineas going on to dominate their divisions and I’m fully expecting a boilover in the Derby as nothing has stood out that is likely to line up from the trials. Struggling to name any really good middle distance horses, the Coronation Cup at Epsom will be a good barometer to where we are there, fully expecting a small field of not much substance which is not helped by its proximity to the Tatersalls Gold Cup, I believe they are 5 days apart or something like that. Race planners need to give their heads a wobble. The sprinters are awful and have been for a while, there will be a different winner of each of the sprint group 1’s probably. Its not a vintage time to follow the flat at the moment as a spectacle, maybe its something in the breeding. :unsure:

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    GM23
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    Ruby. I only really follow the higher level racing on the flat and this has to be one of the weirdest starts to a season I can remember.

    From G1 – Listed :
    2000 Guineas – 16/1
    1000 Guineas – 28/1
    Lockinge – 22/1
    Jockey Club – 50/1
    Dante – 6/1 (4th Fav of 7)
    Nell Gwyn – 18/1
    Abernant – 33/1
    Craven – 17/2 (5th Fav of 7)
    Greenham – 16/1
    Palace House – 33/1
    Pretty Polly 10/1
    Feilden – 11/1

    French 2000 Guineas – 24/1
    French 1000 Guineas – 30/1

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    I fully agree GM. It isn’t a bad start for me since I’m not a fav backer, but more someone who likes to back a trainer in form. But even that doesn’t provide me with the desired results. The Lockinge and the Jockey Club winners were just too impossible to predict. Same applies to the Aga Khan 2nd string in the French 1000 Guineas.
    Just interested to see, if the trend remains that way or if thing will change come Epsom and Royal Ascot.
    Though I can’t see any solid favourites in both Classics.

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    Interesting two single priced winners.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1694896
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    Well, only seven runners in both races and no stand out performer in either race. Coolmore running their only 2nd or 3rd strings in the Derby/Oaks trials. At least that’s my impression. No way Ancient Wisdom’s rating of 115 can be correct, the winner destroyed him by six lengths and doesn’t even run in the Derby.

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    My approach pre-Epsom has generally always been to stick to the races for older horses, 4yo+. And those results this year haven’t all been anything like as unpredictable as the list above:

    Chester – Ormonde Stakes Gp3 13/8 – Huxley Stakes Gp2 7/4

    Lingfield – Chartwell Fillies Stakes Gp3 100/30

    York – Duke of York Stakes Gp2 4/1 – Middleton Stakes Gp2 5/2 – Yorkshire Cup Gp2 4/1

    Of course we all have different methods, but picking the races to play is part of any method.

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    Are trainers targeting later season targets and those getting their horses ripe for early season targets are benefitting. Biggest worry is I can’t see the form holding up from a lot of the big races which may lead to many more higher priced winners.

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