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    nyrian
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    I’m with Will Hill at the moment which allows me to simply bet on the favourite in a race I fancy. I like this! But, I’m fed up of ending up betting on 1.05’s for no good reason.

    Is there any bookmaker that allows you to bet on the favourite in the race but set a minimum SP you’ll actually go along with? i.e. if I want the favourite but only if the odds are above 1.5

    Thanks
    Mike

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    Surely a wind up?

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    davidbrady
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    :shock:

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    dave jay
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    .. welcome to the forum Mike, I don’t really understand the post old chum?

    8)

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    nyrian
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    Which part are you thinking is a wind up?

    That William Hill allow you to tick "Fav" on the betting slip so you bet on the eventual odds favourite at SP
    — or —
    that someone is looking for a betting firm that will offer that service AND allow you to set minimum odds e.g. 1.5

    Mike

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    The minimum odds bit i’d imagine.

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    If that’s your betting approach Mike, I’d recommend you give Gamcare a ring.

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    Thanks for the help.

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    Irish Stamp
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    I think the OP wants to back the unnamed favourite but only if it’s bigger than say 6/4.

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    Avatar photoRoddy Owen
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    What we would really like is only to be on if it wins.

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    I think the OP wants to back the unnamed favourite but only if it’s bigger than say 6/4.

    Aye, that’s it. Didn’t realise I had made that unclear.

    Maybe an example of where I would find this a nice addition might help?

    Example: I fancy the favourite in a race, but should they pull out the 2nd favourite looks a pretty fantastic bet. In that scenario I (having to do my betting in the morning an unable to place a bet later in the day during work) will place a bet on the "Unnamed Favourite" to win because that covers me.

    BUT — if the odds on that favourite, or the 2nd favourite should they pull out, drop to below 1.5 I would never really bother placing that bet if I had the time to wait. I wondered if anyone knew of a bookmaker that will take an unnamed favourite bet but cancel it if the odds drop below a certain point.

    I realise that my situation (not being able to check the odds whilst working) might sound strange to some of you and I may be in a minority of people who could really use this feature.

    What we would really like is only to be on if it wins.

    Yes, that would be a nice feature! But I doubt any bookie has considered that.

    Allowing people to set a "minimum odds" they’ll take when placing a Race Favourite bet is neither damaging to the bookie’s bottom line nor outwith the programming capabilities available online at the moment.

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    No idea what the situation is now but for what it’s worth Will Hill Credit were alone among bookmakers in allowing me to strike bets conditional on a minimum SP e.g ‘£1 win X if 2/1’

    Doubt I requested any more than ten such bets though and never in a shop.

    If memory serves this was only allowed pre-live market on races not priced-up in the morning, and any NRs voided the bet regardless of eventual SP.

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    This is probably the funniest thing I’ve ever read. I personally like the line "I fancy the favourite in a race, but should they pull out the 2nd favourite looks a pretty fantastic bet. In that scenario I (having to do my betting in the morning an unable to place a bet later in the day during work) will place a bet on the "Unnamed Favourite" to win because that covers me".

    How on earth can you "fancy" the favourite when you don’t even know who the favourite is, this had got to be a wind up.

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    How on earth can you "fancy" the favourite when you don’t even know who the favourite is, this had got to be a wind up.

    Who said I didn’t know who the favourite was in that example? It is clear that I do know who the favourite is. But, should the favourite pull out (which I wouldn’t know because I’m betting so early) I’d like the bet to be transferred to the 2nd favourite who may look very good indeed with the 1st favourite out the race. In such a situation, placing an Un-named favourite bet is the best option for those who cannot check the race just before the off.

    BUT — and this is the reason for my asking — when the favourite pulls out and it is down to the 2nd favourite as the only real one in with a chance of winning, the odds often shorten a hell of a lot! Leaving an SP of something ridiculous like 1.05 … that is what I’d like to avoid betting on.

    This happens quite a lot in the races I watch. i.e. only really two contenders and whilst I’d would be happy to back the favourite, if they pull out I really want that bet to go to the next favourite and I can’t do that without the un-named favourite facility.

    You have never bet on the 2nd favourite when the favourite pulls out????

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    Nyrian

    I can see where you are coming from but there are a couple of problems with your strategy:

    1. The first and 2nd fav are both pulled out leaving you with a completely random bet on an unknown horse
    2. Another horse in the race is punted/the fav/2nd fav drifts again resulting in an unintended bet on a different runner

    Your safest policy would just be to back the named favourite and if it’s a non-runner you get your stake back so no harm done

    Tuffers

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    How can you possibly know what the "unnamed" favourite is when you place the bet in the morning. The fact that it is unnamed implies that it is open to change. If you fancy the favourite at the time of placing the bet, why don’t you make that your selection rather than clicking the unnamed favourite box. Prices of horses change and since the introduction of betting exchanges the markets are even more volatile. I think you seriously need to review your betting strategy, alternatively can I be your bookmaker?

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    Mike, could you perchance quote examples of these 1/20 shots you’ve ended up backing in error?

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