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No Silver Fox, it’s an ex-racecourse.
Apart from the three victorious Triple Crown winners already mentioned, an alternative Triple Crown winner was beaten here by another Oaks winner (by the same sire)…
That Champion sire also won here as a two year old, winning the “M……… Stakes”.
Previously, another horse got injured in the same prestigeous “M” race coming fourth, but after a good three year old campaign stood at stud here until his death, becoming a dual Champion sire.Value Is EverythingNo Silver Fox, those two not right either.
It was Ginge, over to you.
Where am I?
At least 3 Triple Crown winners raced on the course, one at its last ever meeting. as did Kings and at least one Prime Minister. Spitfires were built here.To elaborate on the first clue:
The King was King Edward VII and the Prime Minister Lord Palmerston.
Three Triple Crown winners being Lord Lyon (1866), Galtee More (1897) and Flying Fox (1899), though they may not have won at the place in question in their Triple Crown winning year.Value Is EverythingCorrect Miss Woodford, Stockbridge.
Another clue:
Two people who’s Surnames are very similar trained at this place a century apart. One began training here (and still trains elsewhere today) the other coming from one of racings greatest jockey dynasties.Those two people being Mick Channon and Tom Cannon, former used to be assistant trainer at Danebury/Chattis Hill/Stockbridge before falling out with his boss. Walking up to a neighbour and asking if he can train in his own right from their land. Starting with just 10 horses, wasn’t there long and moved on to bigger and better things.
Cannon was an excellent jockey in his own right and as a trainer won the City and Suburban with Mornington, the same day his son (who’s middle name is that of the horse) was born. “Morny” went on to be 6 times leading jockey. His brothers were also jockeys, Walter kempton and Tom Cannon junior. Their sister Margaret married Ernest Piggott and became grandparents of Lester.The "Alternative" Triple Crown winner Formosa, actually "won" four classics, Oaks, Leger 1000 and 2000 Guineas, although dead heated in the latter. An agreement was made to split prize-money so that Formosa did not need to take part in a run-off. Enabling her to win the 1000 Guineas not long afterwards. Following year (not at her best) she ran against that year’s Oaks winner Brigantine and lost. They were both by Buccaneer, who’d won the Mottisfont Stakes at two. Top class at a mile, became Champion sire in 1868 but had been sold abroad by that time.
The Mottisfont was where Venison met an injury and finished fourth, before improving at three. Retiring to Stockbridge and becoming Champion sire in both 1846 and 1847.I believe Chattis Hill only ceased to be a training centre a couple of years ago, when Ken Cunningham-Brown stopped (hopefully temporarily). His gallops go right beside the old ruins of Stockbridge Grandstand.
This was where perhaps the greatest two year old of the 20th century, The Tetrarch was trained by Atty Persse. The horse is pictured in a roundel at Stockbridge Church.
The "something significant" Stockbridge had in comman with Salisbury was The Bibury Club, which had moved from Cheltenham to Stockbridge and on its closure to Salisbury.
Stockbridge closed in 1898, when a lady who disapproved of racing and gambling inherited the Eastern end of the course. At that time every racecourse needed a straight mile and that was no longer possible.
http://www.longstockvillage.com/This_wa … bridge.pdf
Over to you Miss Woodford.
Value Is EverythingName three horses who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and then raced in the USA.
Bonus: Name the horse who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and raced in the USA last year!
Correct Miss Woodford, Stockbridge.
That was an intriguing question Gingerlad and thanks for the equally intriguing explanation
Just had a little google and I see there’s a Spitfire Lane and Spitfire House in Stockbridge as well as a Spitfire Shoot
Was the airfield actually the one at nearby Middle Wallop?
Over Wallop, Middle Wallop and Nether Wallop: what lovely names. You and Reet Hard should have a meeting there sometime
I don’t think the airfield in question was Wallop Drone, I doubt if Stockbridge was ever an airfield as such (with a squadron of Spitfires taking off to go to war). But it was I believe used to test them after being built there. So suspect the racecourse might have been used for this (only guessing).
Got the impression when I did a job for the now owner of part of the course (farmland) that it was also used to develop the Spitfire (I could be wrong).
I see the Chattis Hill stables is in Racing Post as being at "Nether Wallop". It’s some way away from there. Some say the first horse box was built at Nether Wallop (others say London). Could that mean at Chattis Hill? Bentnick – who was involved with the horse box that sent Elis to win the St Leger – had horses at Stockbridge, but not sure when he moved them to Goodwood. The reports of Elis going "from Gooodwood" might have meant because he’d run at Goodwood ten days before the Leger; and went straight to Donny.
Value Is EverythingName three horses who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and then raced in the USA.
Bonus: Name the horse who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and raced in the USA last year!
I’ve got Via Galilei, Charminster and the Ebor winner Dirar.
Name three horses who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and then raced in the USA.
Bonus: Name the horse who raced at the Cheltenham festival this year and raced in the USA last year!
I’ve got Via Galilei, Charminster and the Ebor winner Dirar.
You’ve got two out of three. Dirar is the one who was taken to the US for the summer of 2011 and then brought back.
Gordon Elliot, who apparently saw the success of other British horses in America, brought Dirar and Barry Geraghty here for the 2011 G1 New York Turf Writers’ Cup. After making multiple errors in his jumping he lost to an American horse, Mabou, who was claimed for $30,000 in his previous start. Poor Dirar then finished 6th in an ungraded stakes at Middleburg with Davy Condon, and finally 5th in the G1 Grand National Hurdle with J P Elliot. Proving that you can’t takeany
mediocre British hurdler and automatically win the biggest races in America!
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