An end to packs of dogs tearing wild mammals to bits

[ron b]

Sal    We are all involved in what happens in our communities. We may not have been burgled or mugged or had any number of awful things happen to us to be greatly affected by these mindless acts and shout out loud our disgust of them.

I was born and brought  up in the countryside and still live there and I like many others have total contempt for fox and stag hunting and those who try to justify these sickening persuits.

Those who try to make out that it’s town people against country people are talking rubbish, huge numbers of the rural community are against hunting with dogs.

I am pleased to see that so many on the forum are against hunting, thank goodness for them and thank goodness it will soon be illegal. <br>

[Spook]

Ron, I think the point Sal is making is that it is the people who have a problem with foxes in their area who are the ones who are involved.

Do I presume that you live in an area, albeit in the countryside, where foxes are not eating your lambs and chickens (if you have any?!) You are suggesting by living in the country, you are ‘involved’, which goes against the point of your post.

The farmers who are being ‘mugged and burgled’ of their property by foxes probably feel strongly too.

[Jake]

Pewter,

Are you also against the ritual slaughter of Sheep?

ie; Halal meat.

I don’t here any war cries on this topic.

Regards<br>Jake

[ron b]

Spook   I have many friends in the farming community and I find that many feel more mugged by the hunts attitude that they can charge over anybodys land even when asked not too, causing much more damage than the odd fox. One farmer who is a very good friend recently made the following statement to me in conversation. "Any farmer who looses much stock to foxes is a poor farmer" for example, good farmers like him have raised chicken coops or make other provision to protect their livestock.

If foxes have to be controlled lets hope its not by being chased to exhaustion and torn to pieces for pleasure.

I will make no further comments on this subject as I think the same ground is being covered. 

[Jake]

Pewter,

Why not start a campaign to end these terrible "crimes" then?

Regards<br>Jake<br>

[Spook]

I don’t want to drag over old ground, either, Ron, but this keeps bringing up several points there are no answers to.

Some livestock can be protected to a certain extent, but there are exceptions. Sheep grazed on common or extensive land. Chicken coups or barns, which had animal rights activists campaigning for freedom. Did he not mean they were poor because they had lost their valuable stock :biggrin:

As with any activity there are always a few who ruin the reputation of the rest, the local hunt I know respects other farmers property and puts work into maintaining the hedgerows and land (not because they cause damage, it is part of the service they provide.)

If you have a better way to control foxes maybe the government will pay you to initiate it? (they didn’t ban it last time cos they didn’t have a solution)

Ripped to peices for pleasure is a misguided view, the riders hunt for the riding it gives them access to and to support the hunt doing the local farmers a service. Very few see the kill, it is carried out by the huntsmen, as much as people would pay Rentokill to come and inflict a slow and painful death by poisoning on rats and vermin in the house. Or how about the slaughter men that provide your sunday roast (all veggies forgive me). The point is it is not a nice job and it doesn’t mean these people do it for kicks.

[Jake]

Agreed,

Religion is not something to be discussed on here!!!

Like all good arguments, the divisions on this (fox hunting), have to agree to disagree.

I confess to knowing little about foxhunting, other than it is an important part of many peoples lives. Whereas the fox is insignificant to most. Except on here that is where everyone seems to have one living in their back yard!!

Regards<br>Jake<br>

[phunter]

It has taken me some time to read through these posts and i have to say it has been interesting,I also come from Scotland in an area that some would call countryside but to be honest if you don’t come from Edinburgh or Glasgow you are accused of coming from the country up here i saty a 45 mins drive from both places and have stayed in Glasgow also for a short time although returning to my originial home in Bannockburn ,when all this started up here we had the local MP going round the door and seen out and about asking people there views on it when he was asked his views he said we need to ban it but he was then asked did he want it banned or was he saying it because the men at the top wanted it banned,around this area you have a cross of both for and against although i actually believe most agree with it being banned because they think it is the tally ho brigade involved ,they don’t mind the fishing in the Forth they certainly don’t mind sending ferrets down a hole to catch hares and sending fox terriers down holes to catch rabbits so who is right and who is wrong one can’t be wrong and the rest all right there is a place for everything and i do honestly believe that people jump on a band wagon without fully knowing what goes on ,i have never been on a fox hunt but i have been out on beats so if someone came to me and said you should stop the beating and they had never been on one before i would ask them why it should be banned same with fox hunting until i had been on a hunt i wouldn’t ask to ban it because i don’t fully know what goes on i have an idea what happens but is that because of what i have read about it ,and going back to some of the first posts on the subject concerning what is more important i have 2 disabled sons and i can tell you the government need to spend a hell of a lot more time looking at rulings in that area than taking up hours and hours of time debating fox hunting you might say but you are only saying that as you have a vested interest in disability rulings and you would be right because once you are faced with the same problems believe me whether fox hunting was being banned or not would be way down your list of things that you would want your MP debating.

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