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I believe two weeks annual leave is pretty standard in the US. It’s one reason why so many American tourists are retired – it’s only when they’ve finally stopped working that they have enough time to make a trip to Europe worthwhile.
Britain has it all mates. Godolphin know it and so do i.
Why do you think all their good stuff is based over here and not in America ?
All their good stuff??? I believe the British stable of 190+ has nine Group I winners compared to the US stable of twenty-one horses’ eight Grade I winners. Take out all their US stats for the past two years, and Godolphin sucks big time. The US stable is what has been keeping the boat from hitting the iceberg, and I say that as a Godolphin fan.
As for American racing, I’ve heard quite a few American fans say that they’d rather watch grass grow than Euro racing.
Just because all horses are not grade 1 winners, it dosen’t mean they are not good. Godolphin have more runners in the UK because they know it’s a better place to run horses.
And to be frank, i couldn’t care less what Americans think of British racing.
Did Curlin face Big Brown ? did Zenyatta race R.A ? oh no that’s right they avoided each other. We will see what the yanks have come BC time.
I have a story from Perth which is at odds with AP’s experiences of Americans visiting the UK.
I often watch Perth’s chases from inside the course by the last fence. At the last meeting I met a group of Americans who had been advised of the viewing spot by one of the course. They got a real buzz from watching the steeplechasers in action at close hand. On the other hand one of their number thought that 2m 4f was ‘an awful long distance’, so I just wondered what they would think of the Highland National!
Rob
Craig why do Americans have less leisure time?
Colin
Hi Colin:
As Another poster said, two weeks annual leave (often including sick days) is the most vacation people get, including those in middle management in most companies. A higher rate of people are self employed and put in long hours as well.
The day starts early for kids and parents. There is a strong stigma, it seems, if your kid is not involved in organized post school activities that often drift on from 4pm into mid to late evening (especially sports) and in this current climate when people do have free time they are not spending money as many are worried about soon to be increased taxes.
Craig.
i remember dylan thomas going over to america after beating ouija board in ICS and he was up against 1 of the so called greatest ever bernerdini.thats why i dont like it D T was the derby winner and he was to play second fiddle to bernidini.did bernerdini win the arc???what did bernerdini win after beating dylan thomas?
Dylan Thomas wasn’t the Derby winner, Bernardini had romped in the Preakness.
Bernardini was retired due to injury and he annihilated Dylan Thomas on the day (largely due to the track)
No one considers Bernadini one of the greatest ever. Where did you get that from?
He was probably the best 3yo colt in the US that year (Barbaro notwithstanding). No more no less.Btw, he wasn’t retired due to injury. He was favourite for the BC Classic, but got beaten by Invasor. He was retired because he was a top 3yo son of AP Indy and Sheik Mo couldn’t wait to get him covering mares.
Del Mar set an attendance record in their first week of around 42,000 racegoers. Saratoga was so popular they’re extending the meeting next year by a fortnight. Keeneland on a Saturday is the place to be for everyone in Lexington. Allegedly embattled Churchill Downs had to turn racegoers away for their first ever floodlit meet in July after
too many
turned up!
$16 billion was bet on US racing in 2008/09. That kind of action doesn’t occur if something is a bit boring.
Burrough Hill, you can’t use those rather two dimensional ATR TV shots as a guide to the sport. Connections celebrate as wildly as we do. As for the alleged frigidity of US racefans, I once went to Laurel Park once with four local fanatics. As well as cheering home every winner like berserkers whilst getting seriously trolleyed, we went to a local rock bar after the nightcap and got p****d listening to Motorhead and Sabbath. Never had that happen at the sandpit. Cheltenham, yes, but the original poster mentioned Suffolk in Massachussetts.
Pimlico was packed when I was there, as was Charles Town and Sam Houston (admittedly, an Eagles tribute act inflated the attendance that evening).
Fair enough, the Americans don’t have the racecourse topographical variety, but from a punting point of view is that something to be proud of? I mean the guy who lost twenty grand on an in-running punt at Towcester, when the front runner he lumped on tired dramatically on that criminally stupid uphill final furlong is hardly singing the praises of English diversity is he?
Add nutty watering policies from the likes of that nonk up at Haydock and you’ve got Wacky Races by comparison to the States, puntingwise.
And while I’m at it, in my experience, American racegoers are a lot less, er, up themselves too. Some of the feudal, motte-and-bailey finishing school antics I’ve seen on British racecourses get right up my nose and, I would suspect, are part of the reason young people are turning away from the sport here by the youthclub load. I mean, races run to Rachmaninov at Kempton? Why not
Slipknot?
(I’m only half kidding…
)Forgive me, but I was using the shots from ATR as a guide because for the majority of us, American racing IS what we see on ATR of an evening and you see the same sort of rac eon the same sort of track over and over again with nobody around. I’m sure you’re right, if you’re there, the atmosphere might be electric, there may be thousands of spectators, and even ecstatic owners, but as a TV spectator sport, it’s……..well dull!
You could say that about all racing on TV, Burroughhill, but I do take your point.
Do you not even like the bouncing numbers at Woodbine? (And recently Keeneland?)
Living in Amerika, I wont turn my back on certain good tracks and good folk I met along the way-
Now to compare the product as apples to apples–In My mind its the UK’s Product that is miles superior.
From Eaze of getting Good info without breaking a Newbies bank- If it rains The day and all the work you put into hanicapping isn’t ruined By40% scratches.
You may not like the Brit racing body-At least you have one–
Concerning Craig–Now I have to wager(punt) a certain amount to get video so I can see his track and punt there-
Yes Your racing has its Negatives–But your Positive
Are more numerous than Amerikas Positives.ps I know How to spell Amerika
Living in Amerika, I wont turn my back on certain good tracks and good folk I met along the way-
Now to compare the product as apples to apples–In My mind its the UK’s Product that is miles superior.
From Eaze of getting Good info without breaking a Newbies bank- If it rains The day and all the work you put into hanicapping isn’t ruined By40% scratches.
You may not like the Brit racing body-At least you have one–
Concerning Craig–Now I have to wager(punt) a certain amount to get video so I can see his track and punt there-
Yes Your racing has its Negatives–But your Positive
Are more numerous than Amerikas Positives.ps I know How to spell Amerika
Bud:
To correct one thing in your post…
I am very proud to say you do not have to punt any amount to watch Arapahoe Park live. When we race you can visit http://www.mihiracing.com and watch a live feed of the racing – always free of charge – with no sign up. Similarly, you can look up any race run there since 2006 and view it with no charge.
The rather antiquated website will be changing in the spring but I can assure you there will be no charge (or sign up, where you have to give us details) to watch the live racing feed and access previous races.
Craig.
Craig. That is very cool–This walks right into another issue. I realize its a Para Mutual Game. But on this side of the Pond Many well meaning folk do not like the sharing of information-
Now Mr Baddick I am much indebted to you for sharing that info-Now I pass it on. The Pool grows. We all win.
Thanks Sir.
Bud
Dylan thomas got beat twice in america and it dosent even matter cause he won the Irish derby 2 ICS 1 arc 1 prix ganay 1 king george.it was just that race against bernerdini left a sour taste in my mouth cause it seemed every 1 wanted him to get beat that time.after all the excitement of the ICS win against ouija board too
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