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Following close on the heels of his half-sister Black Caviar, Australia’s All Too Hard has been retired. Had been second favourite behind Animal Kingdom in the Queen Anne.
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … t7DaysNews
Value Is EverythingWithin the space of two months Australian racing has lost the Cox Plate 1-2-3 and Black Caviar to retirement; its hopes for high-class Spring Racing rest with It’s A Dundeel and a filly nobody has seen for over 12 months.
Times of suffering in the short future I suspect.
May be Australian trainers realise a change in Australian drugs (steroid) rules is imminent MDeering. If unable to show the same form once new rules come in their ability will be questioned. Retirement now might be the only option.
Value Is EverythingMay be Australian trainers realise a change in Australian drugs (steroid) rules is imminent MDeering. If unable to show the same form once new rules come in their ability will be questioned. Retirement now might be the only option.
Now havn’t we been over this GT you clueless little man
Stallions do not need steroids as they have their own testosterone and they would get too bulked up and top heavy and Black Caviar was a big foal and a top heavy mare,had they given her muscle building steroids she would have broken down.So stick to your maths and % and dont try to masquerade as someone who actually knows anything about the actual horse May be Australian trainers realise a change in Australian drugs (steroid) rules is imminent MDeering. If unable to show the same form once new rules come in their ability will be questioned. Retirement now might be the only option.
Now havn’t we been over this GT you clueless little man
Stallions do not need steroids as they have their own testosterone and they would get too bulked up and top heavy and Black Caviar was a big foal and a top heavy mare,had they given her muscle building steroids she would have broken down.So stick to your maths and % and dont try to masquerade as someone who actually knows anything about the actual horse Keep up Jollyp.
What I am saying isnothing
to do with stallion duties.
I will try to explain further:
The point is if (that’s "IF"
) All Too Hard etc have been racing with the benifit of performance enhancing drugs (as Australian rules NOW allow) – then once rules are CHANGED All Too Hard etc will no longer be able to use performance enhancing drugs. Had All Too Hard remained in training he would NO LONGER be able to show the SAME form and everyone would draw their own conclusions as to WHY (and his stud career would suffer)…
Therefore, to retire NOW (before any rule changes are made) would be by far the best option, some might say the "ONLY OPTION".
Do you understand now Jollyp?
Value Is EverythingMay be Australian trainers realise a change in Australian drugs (steroid) rules is imminent MDeering. If unable to show the same form once new rules come in their ability will be questioned. Retirement now might be the only option.
Now havn’t we been over this GT you clueless little man
Stallions do not need steroids as they have their own testosterone and they would get too bulked up and top heavy and Black Caviar was a big foal and a top heavy mare,had they given her muscle building steroids she would have broken down.So stick to your maths and % and dont try to masquerade as someone who actually knows anything about the actual horse Keep up Jollyp.
What I am saying isnothing
to do with stallion duties.
I will try to explain further:
The point is if (that’s "IF"
) All Too Hard etc have been racing with the benifit of performance enhancing drugs (as Australian rules NOW allow) – then once rules are CHANGED All Too Hard etc will no longer be able to use performance enhancing drugs. Had All Too Hard remained in training he would NO LONGER be able to show the SAME form and everyone would draw their own conclusions as to WHY (and his stud career would suffer)…
Therefore, to retire NOW (before any rule changes are made) would be by far the best option, some might say the "ONLY OPTION".
Do you understand now Jollyp?
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Captain Condescending!
Deliberately so PC. If someone calls me a "clueless little man", then too right I am going to be "condescending" back.
Value Is EverythingMay be Australian trainers realise a change in Australian drugs (steroid) rules is imminent MDeering. If unable to show the same form once new rules come in their ability will be questioned. Retirement now might be the only option.
Now havn’t we been over this GT you clueless little man
Stallions do not need steroids as they have their own testosterone and they would get too bulked up and top heavy and Black Caviar was a big foal and a top heavy mare,had they given her muscle building steroids she would have broken down.So stick to your maths and % and dont try to masquerade as someone who actually knows anything about the actual horse Not that I believe Black Caviar was ever given steroids, but while stallions may not NEED steroids, plenty of them have been given steroids. Rick Dutrow admitted giving the very-much intact Big Brown steroids prior to his Kentucky Derby victory. It’s an open secret that Curlin was given steroids as a 3yo.
That being said, a steroid ban doesn’t necessarily mean retirement is imminent. A lot has been said about how much of Barry Bonds’ athletic ability was due to steroids vs. natural talent, but his early numbers show that it is likely that he would have had a Hall of Fame career even without extra help. Steroids enable a horse or human to compete more often, recover quicker, and have more potential for muscle development. But steroids can’t turn a slow horse into a world beater.
Stallions do not need steroids as they have their own testosterone and they would get too bulked up and top heavy and Black Caviar was a big foal and a top heavy mare,had they given her muscle building steroids she would have broken down.So stick to your maths and % and dont try to masquerade as someone who actually knows anything about the actual horse 
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