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  • #1557972
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Make it a seven-race card: Shergar Cup plus a 7F Group One.

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    #1557973
    Avatar photoJimsun
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    I would vote for this idea. :good:
    A six-race programme is too short for me. :-)

    #1557978
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    “It would make it better to see the teams coming up with spoiler tactics for their rivals and purposefully blocking them in and so on.”

    Absolutely – the Shergar Cup won’t really arrive as a contest until we see riders putting each other over the rails (literally) and if they haven’t got a ride due to a NR “taking one for the team by doing an Emily Davison and chucking themselves under an opposition runner if it’s clear inside the final furlong.

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    #1557982
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    Imo it is better if G1s are shared across more racecourses so I don’t agree with giving Ascot yet another one or York.

    William Haggas had this to say with regard to his 7f specialist Sacred who won the Hungerford Stakes.

    “Seven furlongs is the worst trip to have a good horse at – it’s a pain. There is one Group One and four Group Twos, three of which fall in the same month. So you can’t do them all – well, Jim Bolger might! There’s then the Park Stakes, and that’s it. So it is a bad distance to have a good horse at, but that’s the way it is.

    He perhaps needs to check the calendar though as only two are in the same month, the Hungerford and City of York which are only a week apart and he seems to have forgotten the Challenge Stakes. He has a point though in that they’re all relatively close together.

    #1558109
    clivexx
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    The true specialist distance and very competitive. Surely the hungerford ? Very fair course and Newbury is short of a group one

    I think it’s the most glaring omission in racing either code

    #1558113
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    I have been sentimental about 7f as a race distance ever since being there to see Greenhill God win over the trip at Doncaster on St Leger Day in 1978.

    In my then callow youth I used to dislike 6f races, feeling they weren’t true sprints yet weren’t true anything elses either.

    But 7f was an even more exciting version of a mile contest (don’t ask me to explain the logic – I was 15!)

    Anyway, I would like to see a 7f Group 1 for 3yo and upwards in the UK.

    But I want it to be at Brighton.

    Along with a Derby Trial there too (Cacoethes won over 1m2f there in 1989 before finishing third to Nashwan at Epsom).

    Oh, and a 5f Group 1 there too.

    And no watering – Firm ground.

    I like summer meetings at Brighton.

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    #1558126
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    Must try to get to Brighton again. I watched it on SSR last Sunday and it looked great in the sunshine.

    It is a bit like Goodwood. A delight when the weather is nice but a bit grim when the sea mist rolls in.

    #1558127
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    Nathan was there on Sunday and posted a photo of himself with a girl who was working for the sponsors. Not sure what that was all about but he’s probably taken some others of the track and gee gees.

    There’s a perfectly good and much-underused photo thread for anyone to post such things in the Lounge. Mind you, many on here don’t seem to know how to post a photo.

    Just had another look at Nathan’s photo and maybe his lady friend wasn’t working for the sponsors but just wearing one of their caps. Only Nathan can tell us, in his own time :bye:

    #1558136
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    “Must try to get to Brighton again. I watched it on SSR last Sunday and it looked great in the sunshine.”

    I was there on Sunday, CAS, and had a cracking afternoon.

    I recommend Brighton races highly, especially when the weather is kind.

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    #1558138
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    We could have a TRF Brighton Beano, together with fish and chips and beers in the Lanes afterwards.

    Easier to reach than Newbury, anyway. ;-)

    #1558143
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    Well, not for me, I live half an hour from Newbury.

    But tbh I much prefer a day at the races at Brighton.

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    #1558148
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    Brighton is my least favourite course from a punter point of view. I never seem to be able to read the races on that track and tend to avoid having a bet at the track.
    Maybe I will visit it some day though as I imagine it’s a good day out In a lovely location but I would definitely keep bets to a minimum.

    #1558156
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    “it’s a good day out in a lovely location”

    100% THIS.

    Especially on a sunny day (not so great on a lousy weather day).

    And yes, a tricky betting track.

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    #1558161
    clivexx
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    I’ve been once. Nothing wrong with the place but nothing great either

    A group one course?

    No

    #1558163
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    Newbury have a Group 1. The Lockinge.

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    #1558165
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    They also have the Challow hurdle which is grade 1.

    #1558166
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    I know but it should have more than one IMO

    Since redevelopment, Newbury, is for me, the best course in the country on a number of levels.

    All this 2000 guineas at Yarmouth, Betfair chases at sedgfield and group ones at Brighton might have perverse appeal to some and would I suppose suit smelly old wetherspoons men with their flasks and cheese and pickle sandwiche. They shriek when asked to pay more than a tenner of course and spend half the meeting in the bog, but it’s bollocks

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