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  • #1732826
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    “Thank goodness for the analysis on TRIP’s podcast.”

    The problem is that the general public don’t listen to such niche podcasts.

    They just swallow all the propaganda they’re fed by the increasingly rightwing mainstream media.

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    Ah Wilts , the there’s no growth … What growth did we have under the Tories ? , if they had such a good 12 years then why didn’t they get re-elected , I did laugh when they said Starmer should sack Reeves …. That’s the way , new Tories , same as old Tories , blame , sack and fill your pockets while u do it ….

    Pick 3 on Saturday champion 2025/2026

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    “I don’t doubt this by the way. It will of course all be pinned on Labour when what we actually have is a failure of successive governments going back decades.”

    Correct, Richard. The Conservative Party and Labour Party have now governed this country for a century (apart from a minor contribution by a few Liberals in WW2 and by the latest version of the party in 2010 to 2015). It has been a joint project to wreck the country, which is approaching its endgame.

    On the issue of tax (such a shibboleth for the Left). Just because you increase taxes does not mean you make more money. If the economy is failing, if businesses cannot employ people and more are out of work, you don’t get any tax out of them. That is quite a simple concept.

    Having said all that, politicians are not solely to blame. We have to take responsibility as well – we get the politicians we deserve. I travel around a lot and I am sorry to say it but the British people are not an impressive crowd nowadays. They are a people in visible decline.

    When 53% of the public are now net recipients and when 6 million working age adults are living on benefits, that is a country heading for the scrap heap. It is only a matter of time before the whole edifice collapses and it won’t be pretty.

    Then again, this could all be dancing on the head of a pin. As George explains for the first 15 minutes before he goes off the rails, do any of these silly unserious overgrown student politicians really understand what they are meddling with?

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    With regard to the State Of The Nation, I think the issue of the Brexit referendum has to be considered. I believe it was done in the wrong way.

    A single issue, all or nothing referendum was polarising and divisive. I don’t believe it has been a happy Kingdom since.

    If a political party* wanted to leave the EU, it should have made it a manifesto commitment and campaigned for it in a General Election. If it then won the election, it should have negotiated terms with the EU and then put the outcome to a referendum.

    It may still have been divisive to an extent but at least it would have had more democratic legitimacy and people would have had a clearer idea of what it involved when they voted.

    Now we are in a bitterly divided country – and that is before all the other stuff that is going on is considered. I cannot remember a more miserable era – and it goes beyond mere economics. Socially, culturally, spiritually. It is just grim.

    *Worth remembering the majority of the parliamentary Conservative Party campaigned for Remain.

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    Most of the people I campaigned with during and after the referendum were in the Conservative Party. It totally changed my opinion of them. And then Johnson became PM and destroyed his own party; the decent MP’s that weren’t thrown out left because they wouldn’t serve under him. The referendum was the most divisive time politically that I can remember. I’ve never been verbally abused by complete strangers whilst campaigning before.

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    “They just swallow all the propaganda they’re fed by the increasingly rightwing mainstream media”.

    Go on, whose that then?

    #1732845
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    GB News for starters…

    #1732851
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    Is that it then? Just one 😂😂😂.
    And they have been around a few years now 🤔.

    One voice against the likes of the BBC/Sky/ITV/C4&C5, is that a fair representation?

    The GB News channel was well overdue, a voice at last for the centre right, and the attempts to shut it down from the left!
    It’s our view or no view isn’t it.
    All about power!

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    The useless Mel Stride was presented with an open goal by Reeves’s dismal statement. And what does he do? Lavishes praise on her. Talk about blasting it into Row Z!

    He also repeats the idea that Reeves was a “junior chess champion”. She wasn’t. She played in the under 14 national competition and finished 26th. Not bad – but hardly a champion.

    Perhaps it might help to focus Stride’s mind to consider the result of a local council by-election in Morley, Leeds yesterday. Reform won the seat with 35%. The Conservative Party, which held the parliamentary seat from 2015 to 2024, finished in last place with a pitiful 4%.

    Under Badenoch and Stride, the party which was once about the most successful political party in western Europe is on a one way ticket to palookaville. I sometimes wonder if it is deliberate. All of this arguing in the Commons is really just a performance.

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    GB News are “One voice, singing in the darkness…..

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    15 people from the Conservatives were in court today over the insider trading betting on the election date, which made the news last year. 12 pleaded not guilty and 3 did not enter a plea.

    I can’t help feeling the ringleader looks like a bad parody.

    CCHQ Gambling Scandal Participants In Court

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    I’ve lost track of the blatant lies I’ve seen on the front pages of the tabloids. When they do have to apologise it’s usually a one line apology buried on a back page. And that’s only from seeing a headline whilst out shopping. ‘The Queen supports Vote Leave’ is one that springs to mind. This was obviously before she made a point of wearing EU colours to open parliament. Even if you don’t buy the damn papers you are subliminally being brainwashed by them.

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    Guido Fawkes and GB News?

    Really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

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    It is reporting a fact in open court, Glad.

    Presumably if the link had been from “The Guardian” you would have been awestruck and treated it like holy writ?

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    Oh look, the story is all right now. The paper established by a slave trader and which uses tax havens despite lecturing everyone to pay more tax has reported it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/13/former-tory-mp-craig-williams-trial-general-election-gambling-charges

    #1732882
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    Presumably if the link had been from “The Guardian” you would have been awestruck and treated it like holy writ?

    You presume wrongly, again.

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