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  • #1708482
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    CAS you haven’t answered my question though , why are they squeezing people if they don’t need to , you disagree with it , I understand that but what is Starmer gaining for doing it if he doesn’t need to

    #1708492
    Avatar photoWilts
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    Snout
    Trough
    Deep in it

    #1708496
    Blackcountry Kid
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    ‘why are they squeezing people if they don’t need to?’
    like the scorpion says to the turtle after stinging him
    it’s in my nature!
    good luck to all

    #1708533
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Can you give an example kid when Labour have done similar before

    #1708535
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    Starmer said in an interview that the winter fuel cut was one change needed to get the economy ‘back on track’ and to ensure pensioners keep the triple lock.

    If the government is u-turned into reinstating the winter fuel allowance they may, in theory, decide to remove the triple lock and say they had to do that to get the economy back on track and point out that they had kept fuel allowance for pensioners. So then there will be complaints about them removing the triple lock.

    One would hope that, if the fuel allowance has indeed gone, they don’t remove the council tax discount as well as that would be a further blow for pensioners (and others) living alone.

    Personally, going after the super rich more to balance the books would be a preferred way for Labour to go about it but that’s just me.

    #1708537
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    They are Mike , we are all going to pay more tax come the budget , we need to sort things out , I live in Scotland and under the SNP have been paying a higher rate of income tax

    #1709080
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    Examples of Labour mismanagement of the finances from the last two times they were in government.
    One of the first things they did during the Blair/Brown years was destroy the final salary pension schemes for private sector workers while public sector workers still enjoy a gold plated taxpayer funded one although it has had slight alterations but very generous compared to the private sector.
    The time before when in government they actually managed to bankrupt the country.
    Now we have Labour party donor Dale Vince pleading poverty on behalf of Starmer,but the latest disclosure that ‘tickets’,priced at £30,000 were offered for breakfast with business secretary Jonathon Reynolds at the Ivy restaurant in Manchester.Although this now seems to have been scraped,after it was discovered :negative: …… I wait with baited breath for their next money making idea.
    good luck to all

    #1709124
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    Didn’t hear you complaining when the Conservatives took £160k of Russian money for a tennis match for one example amongst many others. Funny how people get so bothered by this when Labour is at it.

    It is the system that you should be complaining about and I hope Labour change it. I’d ban all MPs from having second jobs for a start, they are very well paid with a generous expenses allowance. How do any of them find the time for extra work once they’ve done their day job? I certainly wouldn’t have the time after my job and I don’t have tens of thousands of constituents to look out for. The job must be a piece of cake if they do.

    Obviously the whole system of ‘donations’ needs looking at too.

    As for pensions, any private sector workers who are unhappy with theirs are free to join the public sector, or alternatively negotiate a better deal with their employer. No point sitting there complaining and doing nothing about it, if they let the market decide then it probably won’t work out in their favour.

    I am sure the fact that public sector pensions are ‘taxpayer funded’ will come as news to the millions of public sector employees who contribute varying percentages of their wages to their pensions. It’ll probably also be news to those who manage the investment of said contributions which also helps to fund the schemes, many of which are comfortably funded well beyond 100%.

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    UK Public Sector Pension schemes represent one giant ponzi scheme.

    Underlying Investments are underpinned by the UK government and the UK taxpayer. Any failure or shortfalls are made up by the UK taxpayer.
    In short, there’s no risk borne by the members or their employers.

    The most generous employer contributions, with the NHS trusts paying out up to 23% into their employees’ pension plans. In reality the money comes out of trusts budgets.

    In recent months the Local Government Association which represents local councils lobbied Starmer’s government to abolish the 5% CT increase limits. How about immediately transferring all council employees on to a defined contribution pension arrangement and freezing the existing defined benefit pension schemes? That would limit the need to increase CT across all authorities.

    Public sector pensions in their current form are unsustainable, financially, for the country.

    The cost of Britain’s gold-plated public sector pensions has hit £173,000 for every household.
    The value of pensions already guaranteed to workers including doctors, soldiers, civil servants and teachers has reached close to £5 trillion, projections suggest.
    In recent years Britain’s public sector pension bill has exceeded the size of the economy.

    Unsustainable and the pensions apartheid cannot, and must not, continue.

    However, with MPs being part of this particular gravy train, the phrase “turkeys dont vote for Christmas” comes to mind :whistle: .

    #1709157
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    The reason I’m going hard on Starmer and Labour is because of his previous comments before the election where the pious outpourings talked of honesty,integrity & transparency and vows to ‘clean up’ politics.
    good luck to all

    #1709163
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    Politics has been and always will be dirty …

    #1709186
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    Gray quits – how long has this sham of a government been in power? :wacko:
    A very ‘political’ appointment if there ever was one. Her role in BJ’s downfall instrumental.
    What a stink. :negative:

    #1709203
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    ‘how long has this sham of a government been in power’

    Over twice as long as Liz Truss.

    ‘The reason I’m going hard on Starmer and Labour is because of his previous comments before the election where the pious outpourings talked of honesty,integrity & transparency and vows to ‘clean up’ politics.’

    What Labour has done may be hypocritical but it isn’t against the rules (neither was the Tories doing similar). You’re either against everyone doing it or nobody. Like I said, the system that allows it is the problem. Labour has the power to change it, just as the Tories did. Hopefully something is finally done.

    #1709206
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    Typical of the Metropolitan Socialists, in abundance, since the Blair/Mandelson/Campbell days.

    And, with Gray’s ‘reshuffle’, the architect of Labour’s ‘hollow’ victory (courtesy of the Stay-At-Home party), is its main power broker within the walls of government, namely Morgan McSweeney, who is basically The 2nd ‘Cummings’ :whistle:

    #1709210
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    What is a ‘metropolitan socialist’?

    #1709719
    Blackcountry Kid
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    Really wondering if the entire Labour cabinet have two brain cells to rub together following Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner’s comments which have put in jeopardy what was to be a £1 billion investment by DP World.
    Someone should tell them …. engage brain before opening mouth! :yes:
    good luck to all

    #1709727
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    “We are a party of business”. Yeh, Right,

    Value Is Everything
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