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Stubbs
£100 e/w 20/1 William Hills 2000gns 2014.
I see a pattern here.
Camelot favourite at time of bet.
Dawn Approach favourite at time of bet.
Stubbs favourite at time of bet.
Oh dear Wrong as usual Ginge!
I took a chance onCamelot
running in the 2000gns when most were saying he wouldn’t after he won the Racing Post Trophy.Ladbrokes were a standout 6/1 when everyone else were offering 3/1 in the October of 2010 as they who should know the Coolmore plans cocked up! TAPK was bang on the money collecting at 6/1 when he won at 15/8!
Afonso de souza
was the 14/1 fav for the 2013 2000gns in May 2012,
Cristoforo Colombo
was 16/1 and
Dawn Approach
was 20/1 Ginge,I of course took the 20/1 and again collected at that fantastic price aswell as 16/1,14/1,12/1,10/1 and 8/1 and guess what he too won at a short price,11/8!
Stubbs
has been on my radar since he made his debut and his price then was 25/1,he now trades as co fav of 3 ‘Coach House’ and ‘Sir John Hawkins’ also trade at 20/1 alongside him so if you want to try and undermine your King you’ll have to try harder mate!
I being the legendary King of Ante-Post betting will single handedly get William Hill to cut him from 20/1 to 16/1 before the weeks out……..Mark my words!
Good luck with
Stubbs
Gord. He was once again impressive yesterday, quickening clear in stylish fashion. On a side note I was disappointed with
Club Wexford
, who looked to have gone backwards since his 2nd behind
Coach House
. He’s entered again for Leopardstown this Friday which I find bizarre. He’s had three quick runs now and surely he best thing for him is a break and then come back for a maiden in a couple of months?
Although I like
Stubbs
if there is one horse I’m interested in adding to
Saburo
it’s
Sir John Hawkins
. Considering the drift in the market I reckon there was plenty to work on first time out and that he won in such fashion despite this bodes well for the future. Even the likes of
Coach House
and
Stubbs
didn’t win first time out so I’m looking forward to his next outing.
I’m actually a little worried there has been no word on
Saburo
. It’s unusual for Bolger’s to be put away for any length of time but another of his early 2 year olds,
Focus On Venice
, has also yet to reappear, so maybe he thinks he an go straight to the Coventry.
Come on Gord.
Have some bottle.
Why not…Start an Ante-Post competition where it goes from today until Derby Day next year, open to any TRF member. No varied stakes, just done as per £1/point stake. Each way could be allowed if you’re not confident enough to bet win only.
Competition judged on either 1 point win or 0.5 points each way. Particepents may have any amount of bets (1 point per selection) on any Ante-Post race they wish as long as it is before overnight declarations (ie ante-post).I’m game if someone else wants to score the competition.
Well well well Gingers throwing the gauntlet down to his King,the amount of times I’ve offered you out and you’ve pooped your pants and now you fancy taking me on!
Classic Ginge rules I see which ultimately allow you to bet on every horse in the race as per usual………."Participants,not Particepents yo numpty May have any amount of bets
on any Ante-Post race they wish as long as it is before overnight declarations" So basically I back my fellow at 20/1 almost a year in advance and you back him at Evs the week before the race 25 times to a point and you’re the winner eh?
You should be grateful I actually respond to some of the rubbish you come out with!
When you can put 1 selection up per race I might consider whooping yo Ass,I cant compete with someone who covers the whole field then blows his trumpet because 1 of his 7 horses win and thinks he’s a good judge.I’ve proved how easy your system is to succeed although you are doing a good job of ****** it up at the moment but you cant lace my boots when it comes to long range Ante-Post betting as you well know! Good luck with
Stubbs
Gord. He was once again impressive yesterday, quickening clear in stylish fashion. On a side note I was disappointed with
Club Wexford
, who looked to have gone backwards since his 2nd behind
Coach House
. He’s entered again for Leopardstown this Friday which I find bizarre. He’s had three quick runs now and surely he best thing for him is a break and then come back for a maiden in a couple of months?
Although I like
Stubbs
if there is one horse I’m interested in adding to
Saburo
it’s
Sir John Hawkins
. Considering the drift in the market I reckon there was plenty to work on first time out and that he won in such fashion despite this bodes well for the future. Even the likes of
Coach House
and
Stubbs
didn’t win first time out so I’m looking forward to his next outing.
I’m actually a little worried there has been no word on
Saburo
. It’s unusual for Bolger’s to be put away for any length of time but another of his early 2 year olds,
Focus On Venice
, has also yet to reappear, so maybe he thinks he an go straight to the Coventry.
I’ll tell you where I’m at with this ‘Henrythenavigator-Peeping Fawn’ colt
Sir John Hawkins
Tommy.Fast ground and 11/2m will see this fellow go off fav for next years Derby,he is so much like his Mother who never stopped improving but his Father,like his offspring really do need fast ground,I’ve learnt that through ‘Cristoforo Colombo’!! I dont see him as a 2000gns sort at all.
Coach House
is very likely to contest the 5f Norfolk stakes now
Stubbs
has shown his hand,he has to go to ‘Coventry’!
Saburo
reminds me a lot of
Casamento
and we all know what happened to him!!
What really impresses me aboutStubbs
is the fact he’s the 2nd son of a proper Oaks filly in
Moonstone
who comes from a power packed family with stamina,his sire is a perfect match to throw a 2000gns colt who could be a Derby sort too.He shows incredible speed for one so stoutly bred,his Half Brother
Nevis
already looks a Leger sort so the staminas there but my fellow is blessed with pace,he’ll get the mile easy and he’ll quicken off a fast pace for it,I saw a lot of greeness still last night when he hit the front and that tells me come Dewhurst time he will be well on his way to the finished article,a very exciting horse this fellow!
Two of my Army are sorted for Royal Ascot,I see the speedy
Coach house
setting off to ‘Norfolk’ with my 2000gns horse
Stubbs
stopping off at ‘Coventry’ en route to his date with destiny at Newmarket next year.Stan James has seen what I would consider good money for both in the last 24 hrs.They only go 12/1 about ‘Stubbs’ for the 2000gns,good judges these guys,I watch Market forces daily and I remember last year when I kept telling Ladbrokes to stop giving me 16/1 about ‘Dawn approach’ the shrewd ‘Stanley James’ were offering a measly 6/1……..Aah the bliss of being a modern day Robin hood,Women swarming round me offering Blow Jobs,Gay men offering me Brown Handkerchiefs,Its a hard life being a legend!
A third member joins TAPK’s Ascot Army in
Chapter Seven
this fellow has looked a Hunt Cup horse to me for some time,a repeat of his Newbury Spring cup run should see him place at least,I’ll ignore his last performance as ‘St Nicholas abbey’ proved why Group 1 horses really are different class to handicappers over a trip.Strange but the dividing line between the 2 types of horse differs drastically over sprint distances where there really isn’t much between good Handicappers and Group 1 sorts.20/1 about this fellow is worth taking the Ante-Post risk for.
Chapter Seven
£50 e/w 20/1 Skybet Hunt cup.
Come on Gord.
Have some bottle.
Why not…Start an Ante-Post competition where it goes from today until Derby Day next year, open to any TRF member. No varied stakes, just done as per £1/point stake. Each way could be allowed if you’re not confident enough to bet win only.
Competition judged on either 1 point win or 0.5 points each way. Particepents may have any amount of bets (1 point per selection) on any Ante-Post race they wish as long as it is before overnight declarations (ie ante-post).I’m game if someone else wants to score the competition.
Well well well Gingers throwing the gauntlet down to his King,the amount of times I’ve offered you out and you’ve pooped your pants and now you fancy taking me on!
Classic Ginge rules I see which ultimately allow you to bet on every horse in the race as per usual………."Participants,not Particepents yo numpty May have any amount of bets
on any Ante-Post race they wish as long as it is before overnight declarations"
So basically I back my fellow at 20/1 almost a year in advance and you back him at Evs the week before the race 25 times to a point and you’re the winner eh?
You should be grateful I actually respond to some of the rubbish you come out with!
When you can put 1 selection up per race I might consider whooping yo Ass,I cant compete with someone who covers the whole field then blows his trumpet because 1 of his 7 horses win and thinks he’s a good judge.I’ve proved how easy your system is to succeed although you are doing a good job of ****** it up at the moment but you cant lace my boots when it comes to long range Ante-Post betting as you well know! Find your aggression sad Gord, will try to ignore your lies and not rise to the bait… again.
I made a serious suggestion as it seemed to me many on here would welcome an ante-post competition between
ALL
of us.
Am suggesting a competition involving ANY TRFer who wants to enter Gord. Not a silly one against one thing you wanted before. I’d be interested to know how Darren, THM, Boz, Joni, Steve etc perform.
You like to portray me as scared of competition, but you could have taken me (and a lot more TRFers) on in the Royal Ascot, Winter or current Summer competition (not too late), but chose not to. I wonder why?
Who’s the numpty?
The rules I suggested said"1 point per selection"
Gord. So if you select a horse @ 20/1 a year in advance – then you have staked 1 point (or 0.5 points each way) and are on @ 20/1. If I back the same horse 3 days before the race @ Evens – then I am staking 1 point @ Evens. Obviously participants can
only select a particular horse ONCE for the same race
. So NO, I can not back the Evens shot "25 times". If I (or anyone else) wants to back more than one selection per race then there is no reason why I/they can’t. But it is 1 point per selection, so if anyone wants to select "7 horses" in a race – then they will
LOSE 7
points if all lose and
6 points taken off
any winnings if 1 wins (unless another selection is each way placed of course). Where as if you have just 1 selection @ 20/1 you will lose just 1 point for a loser and recieve the whole 20 point profit (or 12.5 if each way). That is only FAIR…
But the "rules" are only a suggestion. If you are so against that particular rule – then how about a
compromise of a maximum 3 selections per race
; same as the current Summer betting competition? If you or anyone else wants to suggests other rules, please do.
Thought with your pricing up a book of a similar mythical competition you’d welcome the chance to put your "talent" to the test Gord?
Hurry up! Had hoped we could start before Royal Ascot!
Value Is Everything"Thought You’d welcome the chance to put your "talent" to the test Gord"?
My ‘Talent’ is tested everytime I put up one of my long range Ante-Post wagers you dick and incredibly after 30yrs of concentrating on Ante-Post betting I am still successfully pulling off ‘amazing’ coups.Since joining this forum 5 years ago I have consistently put up some ‘incredible’ wagers for those interested to see.I specialise in a specific field of betting and in that field I stand alone,nobody comes near me……….Bit like a Scarecrow!
Now if you wish to compete I’ll play along just so long as itsOne selection Per Race…….No more!
Still feel like playing?………….Thought not!
"Thought You’d welcome the chance to put your "talent" to the test Gord"?
My ‘Talent’ is tested everytime I put up one of my long range Ante-Post wagers you dick and incredibly after 30yrs of concentrating on Ante-Post betting I am still successfully pulling off ‘amazing’ coups.Since joining this forum 5 years ago I have consistently put up some ‘incredible’ wagers for those interested to see.I specialise in a specific field of betting and in that field I stand alone,nobody comes near me……….Bit like a Scarecrow!
Now if you wish to compete I’ll play along just so long as itsOne selection Per Race…….No more!
Still feel like playing?………….Thought not!
You had at least 4 bets in the 2000 Guineas Gord. Dawn Approach to win, Dawn Approach to place, Christaforo Colombo to win and Christaforo Colombo to place. Yet you don’t want anyone else having 3 selections.
YOU want EVERY OTHER TRFer in the competition to HAVE TO bet in exactly the same way YOU bet. I have NO PROBLEM with YOU betting how YOU want to bet Gord….. I’ve even suggested a compromise to LIMIT the way I and EVERYONE else in the competition can bet….. I’ve even allowed each way betting in the rules so YOU can bet the way YOU want to…..
But no, any old excuse, you are too scared to compete.
Value Is EverythingYOU want EVERY OTHER TRFer in the competition to HAVE TO bet in exactly the same way YOU bet. I have NO PROBLEM with YOU betting how YOU want to bet Gord….. I’ve even suggested a compromise to LIMIT the way I and EVERYONE else in the competition can bet….. I’ve even allowed each way betting in the rules so YOU can bet the way YOU want to…..
But no, any old excuse, you are too scared to compete.
Ginge me old Sausage If you want to Challenge the legendary King of foresight to a duel then dont expect me to make it easy for you.Its a far more demanding process doing things my way than it is throwing a blanket over a race and backing half the bloody field. Had you been one of the ‘Big guns’ on here who actually show an interest in Ante-Post betting I’d be tempted to take you up on your challenge but I dont rate you as a good judge of a horse and your posts show you dont actually show an interest in ‘The Horse’,you are only interested in numbers.Your system of backing umpteen horses in every race you play in does show a profit so you cant be criticised for that but as a Judge of a horse you are pretty poor and I believe thats why you smother a race with way too many wagers as you dont actually have the ability to form an opinion strong enough for you to say "I actually fancy this strongly" and back it accordingly,that to me shows an incredible weakness in a person,someone who in reality is a very insecure person,I on the other hand have the confidence in the ‘Courage of my convictions’ to support a horse and to support it hard.You stick to your Points make prizes system and I’ll stick to betting real money on Horse Racing!
Ginge me old Sausage
If you want to Challenge the legendary King of foresight to a duel then dont expect me to make it easy for you.
Its a far more demanding process doing things my way than it is throwing a blanket over a race and backing half the bloody field. Had you been one of the ‘Big guns’ on here who actually show an interest in Ante-Post betting I’d be tempted to take you up on your challenge but I dont rate you as a good judge of a horse and your posts show you dont actually show an interest in ‘The Horse’,you are only interested in numbers.Your system of backing umpteen horses in every race you play in does show a profit so you cant be criticised for that but as a Judge of a horse you are pretty poor and I believe thats why you smother a race with way too many wagers as you dont actually have the ability to form an opinion strong enough for you to say "I actually fancy this strongly" and back it accordingly,that to me shows an incredible weakness in a person,someone who in reality is a very insecure person,I on the other hand have the confidence in the ‘Courage of my convictions’ to support a horse and to support it hard.You stick to your Points make prizes system and I’ll stick to betting real money on Horse Racing!
Ffs Gord, get it through your head I am NOT interested in a "DUEL". Just thought it would be nice to have an ante-post competition on TRF for EVERYONE!
https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … =3&t=93348
This Harry Enfield "I am considerably better than eeyou" stuff is so boring. Look…. it would be nice for you to take part Gord, as it is your speciality. If not… too bad!
Value Is EverythingDarren
Its nothing to brag about
but every man and his dog could see
Intello
was a good thing for today,
Bit rich coming from you.
Well done on your winner Darren, he looks a proper nice sort.
"Thought You’d welcome the chance to put your "talent" to the test Gord"?
My ‘Talent’ is tested everytime I put up one of my long range Ante-Post wagers you dick and incredibly after 30yrs of concentrating on Ante-Post betting I am still successfully pulling off ‘amazing’ coups.Since joining this forum 5 years ago I have consistently put up some ‘incredible’ wagers for those interested to see.I specialise in a specific field of betting and in that field I stand alone,nobody comes near me……….Bit like a Scarecrow!
Now if you wish to compete I’ll play along just so long as itsOne selection Per Race…….No more!
Still feel like playing?………….Thought not!
TRFers may choose in each race whether to have:
2 points win on ONE horse
or
1 point each way on ONE horse
or
1 point win bets on TWO horses.
That way everyone is staking the same points per race.Even you can not find fault in that Gord!
Are you in or are you chicken?Value Is EverythingThose who wondered why I rate
Trading Leather
so highly need only to look at the ‘Silver Stakes’ at the Curragh today,he showed why I have been saying all year he needs a trip,his Irish guineas run was a silly mistake but Jim bolger knows now this fellow needs to step up in trip again and after he runs away with the Irish Derby he’ll be St leger bound,pray good fast ground all summer then!
I have a sneaky feeling for one at Ascot, he loves the place and goes very well on fast ground but is stuck between distances, he actually needs 6 1/2 furlongs but given a fast pace 6f should be fine. Do you think Hawkeyethenoo will head to the Diamond Jubilee?
I have a sneaky feeling for one at Ascot, he loves the place and goes very well on fast ground but is stuck between distances, he actually needs 6 1/2 furlongs but given a fast pace 6f should be fine. Do you think Hawkeyethenoo will head to the Diamond Jubilee?
I do indeed Gary,he has good form through
Society rock
who has to be a major player in the same race,20/1 is a fair e/w price too.
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