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- March 5, 2009 at 14:05 #10446
Page 5 of today’s Racing Post. Nevison’s advert lists only winners, no losers so we have no idea of how many bets per day. The fact that he is unable (or unwilling) to provide total profit or loss statistics allows you to form your own conclusions as to how it is performing.
March 5, 2009 at 14:10 #213521Maybe there’s something already in existence. I don’t know. But shouldn’t there be some sort of regulatory body run under the auspices of Trading Standards where all tipping services have to log all of their selections so that consumers can see which, if any, represent value for money?
March 5, 2009 at 14:18 #213523Ken
I’m pretty sure that any tipster wishing to advertise in the Racing Post has to proof those selections in advance, so they should have an idea as to what his profit/loss levels are.
March 5, 2009 at 14:23 #213524Caveat emptor – anyone who uses a tipping service needs to ask why they are selling tips if they are such a good tipster.
I personally wouldn’t give a brass farthing to any tipster.
If I have a really hot tip the last thing I would do is tell someone else. Well not quite true – I do sometimes tell friends but only after I have got on myself.
March 5, 2009 at 14:25 #213525"All tipping services are doomed in the long run"
Dave Nevison – Page 87 No Easy Money
March 5, 2009 at 14:38 #213530You should grab a copy of all our publications. Each tipping service is littered with 20-1+ winners galore. No balance in sight. Cock-and-bull stories are the norm.
March 5, 2009 at 14:55 #213536I can recall reading a fairly old book on betting, written by a professional gambler, who, I think, stated that he always backed two horses in a race.
Is that the norm for professionals? If so, do tipping services, suggest two horses per race?
I think I’ve only ever gone along once or twice with someone else’s opinion, most recently that guy Eddiewoods, which only served to reinforce my view that my own choices are just as good/bad as other peoples.March 5, 2009 at 16:55 #213566You can hardly expect the Racing Post to be arsed about putting full information in other tipster’s ads when they don’t even make the same information available about their own flagship tipster’s selections.
Every second day you log in to the RP you get a banner highlighting how the new daily Pricewise service has tipped a 7/2 winner the day before.
Big Bloody Deal!
And in the results section of the RP there is a little yellow icon when a RP tipster (Spotlight, RP Ratings, Pricewise, or Topspeed) picks the winner but never any icons beside the losers.
Are people really that stupid to believe claims like these?
March 5, 2009 at 17:00 #213568Are people really that stupid to believe claims like these?
Yes – and that is why tipsters make money!!!
March 5, 2009 at 17:07 #213570With a couple of tweaks I think racing touts have the potential to be more reputable than IFA’s. I mean they don’t advise betting your life savings on a 1.08 chance that might win, someday, maybe, or maybe not.
March 5, 2009 at 17:13 #213572You only have to look at the majority of the newspaper napsters on the RP site to see how garbage the whole tipping thing is.
March 5, 2009 at 17:29 #213578Anyone using a tipping service deserves to lose really. It would seem that the RP doesn’t care too much about fairness or transparency, so long as they get their money. Shame on them.
March 5, 2009 at 18:38 #213590what possible pleasure can you get backing horses if you are backing another persons tips,most tipsters are only passing on tips they get from another source,you only feel let down when they get beat as they usually do,so i stick to the evidence of my own eyes that way i have only myself to blaim.
March 5, 2009 at 19:23 #213600
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A few years ago I did a little research into the claims made by various tipsters and often found that supposed inside information was little more than personal opinion, and that advertised results rarely correlated with the service’s actual selections.
Every so often I like to see if standards have improved, but seldom am I left pleasantly surprised. Dave Nevison typically puts up six horses on any given day, but only lists two or three as ‘account bets’. If the other horses lose, he simply ignores them, but if they win then they tend to get a favourable mention.
In the interests of the general public, Dave’s advice today:
2.20 Lingfield Enfant De Lune
2.50 Lingfield Kildonnan3.25 Lingfield Babe Heffron
3.55 Lingfield Victoria’s Groom E/W
4.30 Lingfield Killard Point and Tacinja
5.00 Lingfield Chalice Welcome E/W
Account bets are in bold.
March 5, 2009 at 19:31 #213602Ignore.
March 5, 2009 at 20:08 #213611Wow. Surely a coincidence all the horses that are overpriced today happen to be at the one meeting.
March 5, 2009 at 20:27 #213614I hear that some publications will advertise a tipster for next to nothing in return for a share of the telephone revenue.
I am sure Tommo would never condone such a practice.
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