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    davidjohnson
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    Page 5 of today’s Racing Post. Nevison’s advert lists only winners, no losers so we have no idea of how many bets per day. The fact that he is unable (or unwilling) to provide total profit or loss statistics allows you to form your own conclusions as to how it is performing.

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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    Maybe there’s something already in existence. I don’t know. But shouldn’t there be some sort of regulatory body run under the auspices of Trading Standards where all tipping services have to log all of their selections so that consumers can see which, if any, represent value for money?

    #213523
    davidjohnson
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    Ken

    I’m pretty sure that any tipster wishing to advertise in the Racing Post has to proof those selections in advance, so they should have an idea as to what his profit/loss levels are.

    #213524
    % MAN
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    Caveat emptor – anyone who uses a tipping service needs to ask why they are selling tips if they are such a good tipster.

    I personally wouldn’t give a brass farthing to any tipster.

    If I have a really hot tip the last thing I would do is tell someone else. Well not quite true – I do sometimes tell friends but only after I have got on myself.

    #213525
    Avatar photoCav
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    "All tipping services are doomed in the long run"

    Dave Nevison – Page 87 No Easy Money

    #213530
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    You should grab a copy of all our publications. Each tipping service is littered with 20-1+ winners galore. No balance in sight. Cock-and-bull stories are the norm.

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    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    I can recall reading a fairly old book on betting, written by a professional gambler, who, I think, stated that he always backed two horses in a race.
    Is that the norm for professionals? If so, do tipping services, suggest two horses per race?
    I think I’ve only ever gone along once or twice with someone else’s opinion, most recently that guy Eddiewoods, which only served to reinforce my view that my own choices are just as good/bad as other peoples.

    #213566
    davidbrady
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    You can hardly expect the Racing Post to be arsed about putting full information in other tipster’s ads when they don’t even make the same information available about their own flagship tipster’s selections.

    Every second day you log in to the RP you get a banner highlighting how the new daily Pricewise service has tipped a 7/2 winner the day before.

    Big Bloody Deal!

    And in the results section of the RP there is a little yellow icon when a RP tipster (Spotlight, RP Ratings, Pricewise, or Topspeed) picks the winner but never any icons beside the losers.

    Are people really that stupid to believe claims like these?

    #213568
    % MAN
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    Are people really that stupid to believe claims like these?

    Yes – and that is why tipsters make money!!!

    #213570
    indocine
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    With a couple of tweaks I think racing touts have the potential to be more reputable than IFA’s. I mean they don’t advise betting your life savings on a 1.08 chance that might win, someday, maybe, or maybe not. :)

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    Avatar photoGoldikova
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    You only have to look at the majority of the newspaper napsters on the RP site to see how garbage the whole tipping thing is.

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    dave jay
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    Anyone using a tipping service deserves to lose really. It would seem that the RP doesn’t care too much about fairness or transparency, so long as they get their money. Shame on them.

    #213590
    endevour
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    what possible pleasure can you get backing horses if you are backing another persons tips,most tipsters are only passing on tips they get from another source,you only feel let down when they get beat as they usually do,so i stick to the evidence of my own eyes that way i have only myself to blaim.

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    A few years ago I did a little research into the claims made by various tipsters and often found that supposed inside information was little more than personal opinion, and that advertised results rarely correlated with the service’s actual selections.

    Every so often I like to see if standards have improved, but seldom am I left pleasantly surprised. Dave Nevison typically puts up six horses on any given day, but only lists two or three as ‘account bets’. If the other horses lose, he simply ignores them, but if they win then they tend to get a favourable mention.

    In the interests of the general public, Dave’s advice today:

    2.20 Lingfield Enfant De Lune
    2.50 Lingfield Kildonnan

    3.25 Lingfield Babe Heffron

    3.55 Lingfield Victoria’s Groom E/W

    4.30 Lingfield Killard Point and Tacinja

    5.00 Lingfield Chalice Welcome E/W

    Account bets are in bold.

    #213602
    Blunkett
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    Ignore.

    #213611
    davidjohnson
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    Wow. Surely a coincidence all the horses that are overpriced today happen to be at the one meeting.

    #213614
    bluechariot
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    I hear that some publications will advertise a tipster for next to nothing in return for a share of the telephone revenue.

    I am sure Tommo would never condone such a practice.

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