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    Not got a great record in this, but happy to give it a go once again.

    The 2 horses I wanted to see in the line up are both there, the Alan King duo, Sego Success & Midnight Prayer. Sego Success is a horse I’ve always liked, and I’m surprised he seen out last season without a big win to his name. He took this race in last time, but was a very early casualty, and after then he’s been just a shade disappointing. He’s down a few pounds though, and for a race that is clearly targetted by the trainer, then he is worth considering. His entry for The Lotto Chase at Aintree didn’t go unnoticed though, and he must still be in decent nick at home for them to have considered that. Having been widely touted for The Welsh National last season, Midnight Prayer, not for the first time considering his frailties, missed that gig, due to a coughing bout. He also took this in year, and though he looked “on paper”, the stable second string, I took the view that this just might have been the plan for him all along, and he went agonisingly close, with a last fence blunder possibly costing him victory. He’ll probably be regarded as “second string” again, but he’s due to fire soon, and despite the more obvious claims of his stablemate, I think that this Cheltenham Festival winner will get involved.

    Russe Blanc, who beat Midnight Prayer, is in there again, and he’s part of a bumper entry from Kerry Lee. She has another 4 in there, in the shape of Alfie Spinner, Goodtoknow, Bishops Road, and Mountainous. They all have their claims, and Lee showed last season that she was a “dab hand” at these big chases, and with Russe Blanc, Mountainous, and Bishops Road all playing a part for her, their bound to be popular in the lead up this week. It’s her veteran, though, Alfie Spinner, who appeals to me the most. He appealed to me for The Welsh National, and and I said this about him…..He’s nearing 12, and he’s thoroughly exposed, but I just wonder if she can coax one more big run from the old boy. She managed to win with him at Ffos Las last year, having got him from Nick Williams, and with him still being relatively low in the weights, he makes some each way appeal at 40’s. 40’s would be nice for him here, but with no market formed, I’d be just as happy with 25’s. I’m expecting a price for him, and I’m willing to take a chance that he makes the frame.

    One I’d like to see go one better than just making the frame, is the David Pipe trained Doctor Harper. I’m still recovering from my old pal Tour Des Bloody Champs mugging him at Cheltenham on New Years Day, and I’m hoping he’s on a recovery mission here. What that run at Cheltenham did prove that he has stamina to play with, as there were doubts around this beforehand, and having previously looked like a Festival “Plot Horse”, I really do feel that Aintree might just be on the agenda for him. Travelled like a dream on his seasonal debut at Cheltenham, and having looked as if he weakened away, it has since transpired that he lost a couple of shoes. He’s a horse to keep a note of, and he’ll have to win this to make Aintree, so if this doesn’t come too soon, I’d expect him to go very close. I won’t be betting him, as I’ve got him at big prices for The National, and they might just pull him to wait for a run later in the month, but he’d be a very strong fancy should he line up.

    Paul Nicholls has landed this before, but I’m not convinced by Vivaldi Collonges, and I’ll take it on the chin should he do a “Hawkes Point” and pull a win from nowhere. A win for Virak would be harder to take, as I’ve bet him many times. He was woeful last time, but he’s finally getting some respite from the handicapper, and as he’s otherwise dependable, he very much would be my preference of the Nicholls pair.

    Venetia Williams is another trainer to have tasted success in this, and I’ve said so much about Houblon Des Obeaux & Rigadin De Beauchene over the years, that this time around I can just safely say……..write the pair of them off at your peril. Houblon would be the obvious one, after his big run at Chepstow where he did me proud, but he does tend to follow a good run with a stinker, but if this doesn’t come too soon, then he could easily do some damage here off a lb lower. I’m a wee bit surprised he got lowered for that, and that could be crucial to his chances here. A case could be made for Rigadin maybe being on the downgrade, and he was a faller in this last year, but he’s won this before, and having been very busy over the last few seasons, he’s been seen sparingly since his mishap here last term. I thought he travelled very well in his last run, and if he retains enough ability, then he looks well treated. I’d be very surprised if one of this pair didn’t make a bold bid.

    Despite winning The Lavazza Silver Cup last time, I’d be a shade surprised if Regal Encore popped up here again, and with him being another who’s possibly Aintree bound, then they might just be on a mission to get him down a couple of pounds now.

    One for Arthur ran well in The Becher, and that was off the back of a solid win before. Lucinda Russell has had some joy sending her runners for this type of prize, and should he make the long trip south then he’s worth considering, as is Viva Steve, who like Arthur, appears to be going the right way, and his win last time looked good enough to make a challenge here. Also coming off the back the back of a good win is Morney Wing, who won The Sussex National last time out. That was a proper slog, and he certainly showed the qualities required to win this, however that was only last week, and could this come too soon?

    Would it surprise anyone to see Colin Tizzard land yet another big prize? He’s certainly on fire, but I think the overall form of Sartorial Elegance would see him come up short here, as much as I’d be wary of anything from the yard.

    Shotgun Paddy has ran well in this before, making the frame in 2015, to go along with his win it, 3 years back. If you ignore his run in The Midlands National, then he’s been running fairly consistently, and I think he has the look of a horse who is about to finally get his head in front again.

    I haven’t fully written off Ballyculla for a prize like this, while should the much travelled Bless The Wings make the trip for Gordon Elliot, then he would obviously come into contention. I’d be wary of him Ante-Post though, as there must be a chance he won’t make the line up.

    That’s the pick of the entries, but there’s plenty more in there, with 34 entered in total.

    Doctor Harper makes most appeal to me, and he’s potentially the best horse in the race, while I’d be very interested in the Alan King & Venetia Williams pair, with preference for maybe, just maybe, Midnight Prayer and Rigadin De Beauchene. I’m just no sure how to play this, and the only one I can say for certain I’ll bet at this stage, is Alfie Spinner each way, should he be a price.

    I’ll know more once the market forms.

    GL

    #1281039
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    A Classic preview, Bobby – thanks.

    I think you’re not far out with Alfie Spinner but I’m going to hold out for the final decs I think

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    Cheers Joe :good:

    I think that may be a wise move, the prices aren’t that great, with the 3 firms priced up so far, and I may hold back myself this time……………….famous last words.

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    Thanks for the summary VTC I agree this could revolve around Kerry Lee s entries My initial thought is that her best chance lies with GOODTOKNOW. It is not as ground dependant as her other entries for whom the deeper the ground the better , GOOD acts on heavy but handles good to soft , is only 9 yo , stays well and is back to his last winning mark No bet yet 25 s available with 365 but will see if more offers tomorrow

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    You’re welcome Orchid :good:

    After Sandown, I should just follow you in :yahoo: but I still just favour Alfie of hers. Best of luck with Goodtoknow, and I’m seeing 33’s for him with Sportsbook & Paddy Power.

    #1281166
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    Have just realised both Alfie and Good have entries at Taunton and Catterick this week so will hold off betting until plans are clearer

    #1281167
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    Yeah, I had noticed those entries for Alfie, just one of the reasons I’m holding fire on this race.

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    I didn’t take long to crumble, Sego Success is too big at 16’s with Coral, a few quid each way at that price was too tempting.

    #1281289
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    Cheers Joe :good:

    I think that may be a wise move, the prices aren’t that great, with the 3 firms priced up so far, and I may hold back myself this time……………….famous last words.

    I didn’t take long to crumble, Sego Success is too big at 16’s with Coral, a few quid each way at that price was too tempting.

    I was trying to get a bet on you doing that but nobody would lay!

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    lol Joe, the odds were very poor anyway, 1.01 the last I looked :bye:

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    I just love the Venetia pair RDB and HDO. RDB back to a winnable mark if he retains the ability. The softer the better for this chap. Again after a great run in the Welsh National HDO showed his is back to form. The worry would be whether this is too soon after that run.

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    I definitely favour Rigadin of the 2 now Homer, and at 20’s, he really does make some each way appeal.

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    Hoping Houblon Des Obeaux skips this in favour of another marathon handicap after the National weights are out i.e the National Trial at Haydock or maybe even the Eider. Showed he can be competitive off his current mark, so i don’t really want to take any chances until it’s confirmed he carries 11:04 or less!

    Alfie Spinner looks suited by this race, so hopefully he goes. He’d be my main hope.

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    Another cracker of a write up Bobby. I’m going to throw one into the mix that I think
    has a decent shout. KAKI DE LA PREE has been used sparingly the last couple of years,
    he’s only run twice in either year. I’m not sure what kept him out, I suppose there’s a
    risk he’s fragile, but his last 2 runs have been pretty sound looking. I’ve watched his
    comeback run in June (16) and I was really impressed with the way he won. He jumped well,
    had to be clever at a couple when he got in close, but the main thing for me was that
    when he got his head in front after the last, In The Rough with Richard Johnson up,
    came back and got upside. He (ITR) looked the likely winner but KDLP took off again
    and won going away. His 2nd last time out was another solid run, beaten by the favourite,
    but both pulling 10L clear of the rest. I think he could be improving, even though he’s
    10, and when he runs he keeps his form, only 3 times out of the 1st two in 13 races.

    There are plenty that catch your eye looking down the field, Houblon Des Obeaux, Sego
    Success, Rigadin De Beauchene (who did us both a turn in the Grand National Trial at
    Haydock a couple of years back) and One For Arthur has sound claims, but I think the
    14/1 with Betfred is decent value. He’s another that has an alternative race, on the
    same day in a novice chase at Warwick, but I think he’ll go for the £60,000 Classic
    as opposed to the £25,000 novice chase. I’m going to chance that he does, so my bet
    is placed and I’m keeping my fingers crossed :good:

    #1281367
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    Thanks Graham, and best of luck with Kaki :good:

    I’ve really struggled with this race, and bar the Sego punt, I had to leave alone. I may add our old pal Rigadin at 20’s before the final decs, but it’s a real puzzle, as I badly want Doctor Harper to win for my National “book”. Hardest race to fathom I’ve seen for a while.

    #1281601
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    Great write up again Bobby :good: :good:

    All this praise you get it is a wonder you get out of your door but the praise is fully deserved. :good: :good:

    I am interested in a couple in this and one of them has to seriously come back to form to win this but SPOOKYDOOKY of Jonjo’s at 20/1 is now back on a winnable mark and if he does somehow rediscover his form then he could be thron in here and Leighton Aspell could be the jockey to get him into a rhythm. I hope so :wacko:

    The other one I am interested in is KNOCKANRAWLEY who if I knew he was something like straight at 16/1 would be a huge price!! Ran a terrific race first time out last year behind Sausalito and before that had ran fourth in the Eider. My main worry with this one is that maybe the Eider is the target again but at 16/1 has to be worth a couple of my hard earned pounds each way!!

    #1281611
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    Now that GOODTOKNOW has been confirmed I have taken the 40/1 EW . I have also had savers on Kerry s other two runners Mountainous and Russe Blanc at 25 s and 20 s ew. Maybe Saturday I ll add the forecast and tricast lol ! :yahoo:

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