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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    I’d hold off on CH bets until Altior has at least one more run over fences. Suspect he might just have a switch of target.

    MTOY, I’m afraid continues to be overrated, probably because of the way he travels, and his good looks. He’s never quite had the heart for a fight.

    As for Yanworth, they reportedly move him up in trip. I thought he showed signs of attitude problems on Saturday: definitely was not putting it all in at the finish in my view.

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    I’d hold off on CH bets until Altior has at least one more run over fences. Suspect he might just have a switch of target.

    MTOY, I’m afraid continues to be overrated, probably because of the way he travels, and his good looks. He’s never quite had the heart for a fight.

    As for Yanworth, they reportedly move him up in trip. I thought he showed signs of attitude problems on Saturday: definitely was not putting it all in at the finish in my view.

    I thought what he did last season was completely underrated. To finish 2nd in the Champion Hurdle after 2 years off was very impressive. Yes, has been found wanting on 3 occasions at Cheltenham, but has always hit the frame and 50/1 about a horse who has finished 2nd in this race twice is decent. Yes, he will be 10, and the run at Haydock was poor, but that was desperate ground. The positive you can take from that race is he looked the calmest he has ever looked. He didn’t race too keenly, which has often been his undoing, and I think (providing it is decent ground) 50/1 is a blinding EW bet.

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    On that face of it, Charlie, that’s a fair argument, and, as we always say, it’s a game of opinions. He’s a great horse to watch and I’ve followed him, without ever betting him, since his novice days, because he’s interesting as an individual.

    He has never quite finished off his races in the top grade and those finishing efforts are becoming increasingly tame. I wonder if they’ve ever looked at his wind? Must have done, surely, given the number of disappointments in the top grade. The Christmas Hurdle he won, he did so by reaching the post before TNO got fully back into gear in my opinion.

    His settling so early at the weekend I’d see as a bad sign, not a good one. Keenness is deep in the horse’s character; you don’t suddenly lose that and learn to settle approaching your tenth birthday. He’s a lovely animal, a beautiful mover for a jumper, and seems honest in attitude. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they found something wrong with him, probably in his wind.

    #1273866
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    On that face of it, Charlie, that’s a fair argument, and, as we always say, it’s a game of opinions. He’s a great horse to watch and I’ve followed him, without ever betting him, since his novice days, because he’s interesting as an individual.

    He has never quite finished off his races in the top grade and those finishing efforts are becoming increasingly tame. I wonder if they’ve ever looked at his wind? Must have done, surely, given the number of disappointments in the top grade. The Christmas Hurdle he won, he did so by reaching the post before TNO got fully back into gear in my opinion.

    His settling so early at the weekend I’d see as a bad sign, not a good one. Keenness is deep in the horse’s character; you don’t suddenly lose that and learn to settle approaching your tenth birthday. He’s a lovely animal, a beautiful mover for a jumper, and seems honest in attitude. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they found something wrong with him, probably in his wind.

    Points well made. Taken the 50/1 EW so hopefully all is well and he makes it there fit.

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    My Tent or Yours is currently 50/1. All over this price EW

    Could look a good bet that charlie, good luck with him.

    I thought last year i had a chance with him in the CH, i backed him to win @ 20’s in the “without Faugheen ” market. A week later Faugheen got injured and the rest is history :cry:

    It still grates on me that bet :yes:

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    Theres rumours circulating on twitter that Annie is out for the season/to be retired. out to 11/2 on the exchanges now with faugheen 5/2.

    Hope its not true, we’ve lost enough stars this season already for one reason or another.

    #1273917
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    Praying those rumours are not true

    #1273918
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    Theres rumours circulating on twitter that Annie is out for the season/to be retired. out to 11/2 on the exchanges now with faugheen 5/2.

    Hope its not true, we’ve lost enough stars this season already for one reason or another.

    I don’t think there’s anything to worry about KSS, there don’t appear to be any reports coming in
    of anything untoward. I would think something would have leaked out by now, and the exchanges have
    quickly rebounded in to 7/2.

    #1273926
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    Happy days! Hopefully see her out soon

    #1273943
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    My Tent or Yours is currently 50/1. All over this price EW

    Could look a good bet that charlie, good luck with him.

    I thought last year i had a chance with him in the CH, i backed him to win @ 20’s in the “without Faugheen ” market. A week later Faugheen got injured and the rest is history :cry:

    It still grates on me that bet :yes:

    Botchy that made me laugh, not at you but because it’s the sort of thing that I’d end up doing myself

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1273956
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    Botchy that made me laugh, not at you but because it’s the sort of thing that I’d end up doing myself

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    Honestly Nathan, i could not believe it. I’m just coming round to be able to smile about it now.

    20’s without Faugheen. The favourites bound to win it, but if he falls or runs poorly i’ve got a chance.

    Next week Faugheen gets withdrawn and MTOY comes down to about 7-1. Next thing you know SUPERSUB gets supplemented and beats MTOY by 3L.

    Would of been a great bet if the FAV stayed in.

    I suppose at the end of the day it was a great bet but just was not meant to be.

    Worst of all i had been backing Vatour to win the Gold Cup for about 6 months and then the owner goes on TV and says he’s not running. Just as i was eating my corn flakes !

    Will take me forever to get over that one. :cry: God knows how the telly never ended up in the street at 9.30 am that morning :)

    #1273973
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    The one with My Tent or Yours that cost me was when he was runner up to Jezki. I had been betting him each way for the most part of the year so still made a profit but the win would have been a very good return. If you watch the replay Barry G just did enough to put MTOY’s off at the final hurdle which I think won it for Jezki.

    I was the same with Vautour. I was convinced he’d run in the Gold Cup despite all the other entries.
    That was a painful one.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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    I must admit I’m amazed at the prices on Apples Jade for the champion hurdle.

    The way she stayed on in the home straight when looking completely beat just screamed champion hurdle to me. And that was on a flat track.

    Plus, we know she goes well in the spring.

    #1274957
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    I must admit I’m amazed at the prices on Apples Jade for the champion hurdle.

    The way she stayed on in the home straight when looking completely beat just screamed champion hurdle to me. And that was on a flat track.

    Plus, we know she goes well in the spring.

    I am of the same opinion too judge, and backed her at what I thought was a decent 10/1
    6 weeks ago before her run at Down Royal. Things haven’t quite gone to plan, but I think
    the biggest problem is that Gordon Elliot made a knee jerk reaction after that race and
    declared her too slow for a Champion Hurdle. Having said that, he did run her in the
    Fighting Fifth, which gives a chink of hope. Probably my ante post is somewhere down the
    Suwannee, I can cope with that, I would just love to see her given the chance to show her
    spring form was as good as it looked. If she is given the chance, I’ll be going back in again.

    #1274975
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    Hope it pans out for you mate

    Of course she’s got the five year old stat to overcome as well but one of the favorites is coming back from an injury and the other favourite is trying to win champion hurdles back to back (which is rarely done) so I think this is much more wide open than people think

    #1275089
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    Hope Annie Power can win on her at 3/1 so hope she come out soon

    #1275091
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    Is yorkhill being held back to team Mullins see what happens with Faugheen and Annie?
    Looks like Faugheen is out of the hattons grace on sunday

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