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  • #1288776
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Did anyone see that bumper winner on Tuesday in the last race at Taunton?

    If The Cap Fits.

    Was extremely impressive.

    Some potentially useful horses in there too but he destroyed them giving weight away.

    No mention of if he will be given an entry to the Cheltenham bumper but could be a lively each way shout if he was to run.

    25/1

    Backed him

    #1289136
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    Carter mckay the pick of the his own mullins sais

    Ballyward a pulled muscle might still turn up

    #1289218
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    Carter McKay would be far my best AP bet of the festival, however it is fortunate that Getabird has been ruled out, as I think he’d be the top of the pecking order otherwise. Nonetheless I’m buoyed by Mullins’ comments here and can see it going off at an even shorter price come the day, if all’s well. Not much else stands out on form at the moment.

    #1289220
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    Mullins went through all his runners today and he mentioned Redhotfillypeppers for this race. She was ultra impressive for me on her previous two runs and 16/1 Nrnb seems more than fair.

    #1289221
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    Backed that Fulham Road at 1000’s on the exchange in case they change the rules to allow 7+ year olds in

    #1289225
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    Anyone heard plans for Daphne Du Clos ? Last i heard they were thinking about Aintree for her.

    #1289228
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    She’s second fav for this at the moment and Henderson has confirmed she’s due to run, although his record is pretty poor! Only 3 4 y/os have won the race, but not sure how many from…

    #1289237
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    DELIRANT

    Remember the name

    Delirant declared up all over the show next week Rocky :good:

    #1289239
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    I’ve backed her and the 2nd Western Ryder from Newbury. The below was taken from a recent guardian interview / article – as he says he rarely sends a runner, as I think he’s usually feels its a tough race for an immature/inexperienced horse, so for me that speaks volumes.

    “We might even hit the Bumper this year, which is very strange for me,” Henderson said. “She is so tough and forward and mature, and she’s a four-year-old filly, which the history books say isn’t possible, but it looks open this year. She looked very good the other day [at Newbury] and she gets all the allowances. I think she’s got 10st 4lb.”

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    She’s second fav for this at the moment and Henderson has confirmed she’s due to run, although his record is pretty poor! Only 3 4 y/os have won the race, but not sure how many from…

    Thanks for that Joliff.

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    I’ve backed her and the 2nd Western Ryder from Newbury. I think she’s got 10st 4lb.”

    Yes BG i’m on WR myself. He has a 6 lb turnaround from Newbury so should be pretty close next time around. A big danger that Henderson horse if it runs. :yes:

    #1289253
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    Anyone heard plans for Daphne Du Clos ? Last i heard they were thinking about Aintree for her.

    For what its worth Anthony Bromley tipped her up on tonight’s On The Line.

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    DELIRANT

    Remember the name

    Delirant declared up all over the show next week Rocky :good:

    If he/she runs this week, will he/she run at Cheltenham? I know there won’t be any jumping so less exertion but it might have some impact?

    #1289432
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    Lismore Cheltenham Preview Night

    Panel :
    Tony McCoy (TM)
    Davy Russell (DR)
    David Casey (DC)
    Alan King (AK)
    Noel Cummins (NC)
    Henry De Bromhead (HD)
    Carl Llewellyn (CL)

    Night started off with Richard Phillips doing MC, as Mike Cattermole & Alan king were late arriving “Got stuck in UK”, Phillips was very good at MC & got all the panel messing & slagging each other.
    McCoy hinted at numerous times during the night that he will be riding at the festival, to which DR replied “He’ll definitely do 11st 12Lb”, David Casey said McCoy could ride there alright, but he won’t get colours big enough to fit him !

    Tuesday
    Supreme Novice :
    TM – Defi Du Seuil & Charlie Parcs will defo not run here. He likes Moon Racer, if he gets there he is the one he would be backing, as he has the form. He has beaten Ballyandy. And he also has course form.
    DR – Melon being fav for this is an absolute joke. He is a lovely looking horse, but being fav after 1 run, this shouldn’t be. He thinks Finian’s Oscar should run in this. Said he has no ride in this yet, then said “We have nothing going in this have we Henry” (to De Bromhead). HD replied, he has Capital Force entered in this but the reason Davy has no ride in this is because he made a balls on him the last day ! Said he will ask David Mullins & if he can’t then Davy has a chance !!!!
    DC – Melon is very good, they really like him, but he beat little in Leopardstown the last day. He has heard that they are struggling to get Moon Racer fit & ready for the day & thinks he will miss the festival. Bunk Off Early is better Value @ 8/1.
    NC – Melon won’t be fav on the day, said his owners are very lucky & will be 5/1 on the day. Ballyandy will go off fav & he would be his choice.
    HD – He runs Capital Force, needs good ground & a good gallop. EW chance. Ballyandy is his choice as winner.
    CL – Melon is inexperienced. Ballyandy very solid.

    Arkle :
    TM – Altior is a good thing.
    DR – Yorkhill should run here. He rides Ordinary World, will ride him for a place. Altior is the best in it without Yorkhill.
    DC – Yorkhill will go to the JLT. Royal Caviar will run in this, but will be running for a place. The hill might not suit him.
    HD – Will run 3 in it. Identity Thief will not run. Ordinary World would probably be his pick of his 3, but they are very hard to choose between as they are all rated pretty much the same. Altior is the winner.
    CL – Altior wins if he jumps. Ordinary World EW.

    Champion Hurdle :
    TM – Yanworth is best on official rating, but his jumping isn’t the best at times. My Tent Or Yours very good EW bet. Will defo beat The New One.
    DR – Impressed by Yanworth & Buveur Dair. Brain Power not good enough for this. Petit Mouchoir very solid.
    DC – They have until 8th March to supplement Limini & will wait until then to make decision. VVM is a lot better now than when she returned from Doncaster, and coming back to herself.
    AK – King & Cattermole arrived just at this point. Cattermole said that on the 6hr journey acros King was constantly on about Yanworth to him. King said he is really looking forward to him running.
    NC – VVM is the form horse.
    HD – He is completely focused on Petit Mouchoir at the moment & he is really happy with him.
    CL – Yanworth isn’t a great jumper & Buveur Dair is his choice to win this.

    Wednesday
    Neptune Hurdle :
    TM – Neon Wolf impressed him a lot. Said Harry Fry is constantly on about this horse & thinks he is the best he has had. Bacardys EW.
    DR – Death duty would defo win this, but they gonna go for AB with him. Thinks Lets Dance is being overlooked for this & has a chance.
    AK – Big Neon Wolf fan. Thinks Finian’s Oscar is one to take on. Thinks his form is not good enough. He runs Messire Des Obeaux here and has an EW chance.
    After discussing the race a bit and just before moving on, King then says that he is just after remembering something he had heard earlier & Neon Wolf was entered on Friday & Might skip Cheltenham in favour of Aintree. Said the owners don’t care too much for Cheltenham. Said he had a horse a few yrs ago for the same owners & he had to beg them to run it at Cheltenham.
    NC – Impressed with how Bacardys won the last day. Patrick gave him a great ride. Rode him patiently.
    HD – He has Monalee entered and he really likes him. Said he will avoid Death Duty wherever he runs. If DD turns up here Monalee will go for the AB. Russell also ploughed in with his liking for Monalee. Most likely run here as he is surprised they are leaning towards the AB for Death Duty as he thinks he would defo win this as he has the class.

    RSA Chase :
    TM – Coney Island has impressed him a lot. Said he had an issue LTO & prob the reason he was beaten. Said he is better again now. Said if he owned American, he would run him in the 4 miler. Likes Mite Bite also.
    DR – Will ride Whisper providing they avoid Yorkhill by running here. Said whisper likes a bit of juice in the ground. But he isn’t overly ground dependent. Likes the course. Said Mite Bite is by Scorpion, Cattermole asked what does that mean – Davy made the puking sound, like he won’t like the hill !
    DC – Was asked what do they think of this race. He said, not a lot. They will run Bellshill, but he has been to Cheltenham twice and hasn’t run his best. Thinks the track might not suit him. Said he likes Whisper if he runs.
    HD – Likes Bellshill. Said they ground will be in his favour. Said the soft ground he has been running on doesn’t suit him. Said trip is ideal & doesn’t think it is the track that is the issue. Said the 2 times he has run at Cheltenham the trip was too short & that’s why he didn’t show his best. Has Herons Heights entered in this, but most likely will run him in a handicap, depending on the mark he gets (Seems to fancy him for a handicap IMO).
    CL – Thinks the top 2 are very short. Likes Whisper & also thinks Disko is very tough & consistent.

    Champion Chase :
    TM – Douvan is exceptional & jumps like a champion chaser should. Low & fast over fences.
    DR – No Contest. Absolutely loves Douvan. Thinks he is exceptional.
    NC – Asked “Who rides Douvan” gave a grin, suggesting Ruby will knock him !
    AK – Thinks there is a disconnection between Ruby & Douvan. Said if you look at his last run, he came out of Ruby’s hands a few times.
    HD – Special Tiara will go a good lick, prob set it up for Douvan. But he is good value to be 2nd to him.

    Bumper :
    TM – Daphne Du Clos is best of British. But is only a 4YO.
    DC – Will only run 3 in it. Ballyward will not run. Patrick will ride Carter Makay. Start of the yr they thought their bumper horses weren’t too good, but as they all started to run they realised they aren’t too bad after all.

    Thursday
    JLT Novice Chase :
    TM – Cannot see Top Notch beating Yorkhill. Yorkhill very impressive last yr to win in Aintree. Never seen a horse to pull so hard all the way through a race and still win the way he did.
    DR – Yorkhill
    DC – Yorkhill is very good. Trip suits. He is top quality, has huge ability & will take a lot of beating.
    AK – Top Notch fan & surprised if he is not in shake-up.
    NC – Yorkhill the one to beat. Disko has a chance if he runs.
    HD – Yorkhill hard to beat.
    CL – Sam Twiston-Davis is a poor judge and he thinks Politologue is a good thing. Said to completely rule this lad out.

    Ryanair Chase :
    TM – Would love to ride Uxizandre in this. Said the last time he rode him, the speed he shown was unreal. Thinks UDS is a slow horse & wouldn’t have him.
    DR – Could ride Zabana in this race. He is entered in 2 at festival (Casey said, make sure you face him the right way this year!). Uxizandre is the best value bet of the meeting.
    DC – UDS likes a bit of cut in the ground, said a bit of juice in the ground will help him. Said he is in good form & the trip is ideal for him.
    AK – Uxizandre is very well in himself at the moment. He needs to go left handed. He exceeded his expectations the way he ran the last day & he worked very well on Saturday last.
    NC – Likes Empire of Dirt & is a big UDS fan.
    HD – Will run Sub Lieutenant in this. Didn’t say anything on him, just that he runs. There was a big cheer suggesting this has a big chance – Gigginstown in Ryanair !
    CL – Joses Hill is a big girls blouse. Likes both UDS & Uxizandre. Uxi is good value.

    World Hurdle :
    TM – Unowhatimeanharry impressed LTO. Jezki definitely runs in this & great EW bet.
    DR – Unowhatimeanharry is the bet of the meeting. Cole Harden EW.
    DC – Nichols Canyon will probably wait for Punchestown. VVM could run in this but more than likely run in the mares. Thinks Jezki is the one.
    AK – Cole Harden EW
    NC – Shaneshill
    CL – Cole Harden EW – Has had a wind op & the good ground will suit him. Unowhatimeanharry is no value. Jezki great value.

    Friday
    Triumph Hurdle :
    TM – Defi Du Seuil is a very good jumper & fears Mega Fortune the most.
    DR – Rides Mega Fortune. He stays the distance, soft ground would be better but not very ground dependent.
    DC – Defi will be hard to beat. Irish form isn’t strong. They are all beating each other. Meri Devie ran well the last day & is the best of Mullins’.
    AK – Master Blueyes has a huge chance. He wants it dry. Very sweet on him. Said he was always a Triumph horse & don’t mind Tom ? He knows **** all & was never gonna run in Fred Winter. Has been working unreal well the last month.

    Albert Bartlett Hurdle :
    TM – West Approach, his run the last day was very good form. Death Duty should go for the Neptune, thinks trip will catch him out.
    DR – West Approach, Wholestone lacks the class for this race.
    NC – Agusta Kate. Monalee was very good LTO in Clonmel.
    HD – Monalee has a great chance if he runs in this – Depends on where Death Duty goes ( Avoiding him).
    CL – Wholestone lacks the class for this race. He has had a problem since his last run.

    Gold Cup :
    TM – More Of That is ok after his fall the LTO. He is back running to his best form from 2 yrs ago lately. Has an ew chance. Outlander is improving all the time & is his choice. Thinks Djakadam is a big player too and his prep this yr is a lot better.
    DR – Worries about Cue Card. Sizing John is an unknown quantity & dunno about the trip. Djakadam has been freshened up & great decision not to go to Leopardstown with him & prep this yr is spot on. Don Poli is slow & he gave him a lot to do last yr in it. Outlander probably just gets the nod in front of Djak.
    DC – Djakadam has a huge chance this yr. Doensn’t like Cue Card. Thinks Native River hasn’t improved enough. He won off 150 & ran off 150 again & only beat Raz De Maree by 1.5l. Thinks More Of That will run a big race.
    NC – Cue Card won’t stay the trip. Emptied out very quickly in Ireland last yr. He is on the Djakadam bandwagon, but it is a poor renewal.
    AK – Native River rock solid, but Cue Card coule be the class act in the field. Fancies CC.
    HD – Champagne West is in great order. Will love a test of stamina. Won well off 154 in Thyestes. Djakadam won Thyestes off 145 and has run well in GC, so thinks he has a great chance.
    CL – Bristol De Mai has no chance unless it rains. Fancies Djakadam.

    Handicap Tips :
    TM – Beauvreuil & Bloody Mary
    DR – Diamond King (Brown & Advisory) – Good Ground
    DC – The Storyteller (Martin Pipe)
    AK – Dino Velvet (Fred Winter) & Label Des Obeaux (Ultima)
    NC – Ballyandy (Coral) – King & Cattermole started to skit at this.
    HD – The Storyteller (Martin Pipe)
    CL – Foxtail Hill (Close Brothers Novice Handicap – Tue)

    Charity Tips :
    There were stipulations here. McCoy had to pick JP handicap horse. Russell had to pick something he was riding. Casey had to pick a Mullins horse & De Bromhead had to pick one of his own.
    TM – Said €50 ew on Jezki – World hurdle. Paddy Power representative said it had to be a handicap horse. McCoy said he didn’t know what was goin in handicaps & after a few minutes he stood up & took out money out of his own pocket & said he will have €100ew of his own money with William Hill on Jezki.
    DR – Had his €50 ew on Ordinary World in Arkle. Said he will creep around on him & finish 3rd @ 50/1.
    DC – Had his €50 ew on Agusta Kate in Albert Bartlett.
    AK – Had €50 win on Master Blueyes – Triumph
    NC – A Genie In Abottle – €50 win – 4 miler
    HD – €50ew – Petit Mouchoir

    #1289434
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    DELIRANT

    Remember the name

    Delirant declared up all over the show next week Rocky :good:

    If he/she runs this week, will he/she run at Cheltenham? I know there won’t be any jumping so less exertion but it might have some impact?

    Tom Scu jocked up for newbury 4th Mar.

    #1289438
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    Lismore Cheltenham Preview Night

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    NC – Melon won’t be fav on the day, said his owners are very lucky & will be 5/1 on the day. Ballyandy will go off fav & he would be his choice.

    NC – Ballyandy (Coral)

    I hope Noel didn’t take a fee for his contribution. Said Ballyandy is his choice in the Supreme then gives it as his handicap tip in the Coral. And to top it off,he thinks Melon wont go off fav. He must of started early on the ale me thinks

    Thanks for the post Rocky, great stuff

    #1289461
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    Did anyone see that bumper winner on Tuesday in the last race at Taunton?

    If The Cap Fits.

    Was extremely impressive.

    Some potentially useful horses in there too but he destroyed them giving weight away.

    No mention of if he will be given an entry to the Cheltenham bumper but could be a lively each way shout if he was to run.

    25/1

    Backed him

    Not involved.

    Money back so no harm done.

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