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  • #1286305
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    No front runners. Zubayr backers should be worried.

    Nicholls on Zubayr – “Last year he surprised us a little bit by winning the Adonis at Kempton, he was dropped right out last, they went quick and he stayed on strongly. We haven’t actually ridden him like that since then and I think that’s what we might have to do on Saturday.

    He’s crying out for a real fast run handicap where we can just drop him in a little bit.”

    #1286351
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    No front runners. Zubayr backers should be worried.

    Nicholls on Zubayr – “Last year he surprised us a little bit by winning the Adonis at Kempton, he was dropped right out last, they went quick and he stayed on strongly. We haven’t actually ridden him like that since then and I think that’s what we might have to do on Saturday.

    He’s crying out for a real fast run handicap where we can just drop him in a little bit.”

    Yep that part of the quote does not sound too good. But the other part sounds ok –

    ” He was fifth at Sandown under 11-12 and wasn’t beaten that far but he was nowhere near his best and he’s not the biggest horse to be carrying 11-12.He did a nice piece of work with Movewithetimes last week, could hardly split them, and the race might just suit him on Saturday

    ” I know he’s a lot better now than at Sandown.”

    #1286375
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    To be fair, Consul De Thaix and Zubayr should be next to each other based on their run at Sandown + new handicap marks.

    #1286377
    Dex
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    I found this quote more interesting:

    One of four possible runners in the Betfair Hurdle for owner JP McManus, Nicholls ‘will be surprised’ if Barry Geraghty doesn’t ride but confesses to being in the dark as to whether Movewiththetimes is well handicapped.

    I’ve read somewhere that Nichols had backed Movewiththetimes for the Supreme at the start of the season, so he obviously likes him a lot.

    #1286386
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    Why would he need to back one of his own horses. Surely he as enough money without the need to gamble.

    #1286422
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    Big G 5/1 Ballyandy is still big pal,if the ground deteriorates any more there could be more Non-runners and ‘Ballyandy’ could go off 5/2fav.I said ‘MTOY’ at 5/1 was still huge when he romped home too.

    Waited as long as I could TAPK, his odds are mainly shortening so I’ve taken the 11/2 before
    it disappears, I’m more than happy with that :good:

    #1286477
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Big G 5/1 Ballyandy is still big pal,if the ground deteriorates any more there could be more Non-runners and ‘Ballyandy’ could go off 5/2fav.I said ‘MTOY’ at 5/1 was still huge when he romped home too.

    Waited as long as I could TAPK, his odds are mainly shortening so I’ve taken the 11/2 before
    it disappears, I’m more than happy with that :good:

    There’s been money for ‘Clyne’ Big G and with the anticipated really soft ground it will be a 2 horse race,this fellow is 5lb well in on ratings for chasing home ‘The New One’,thats solid form but Nige will have his mark,however when I scoured the betting a couple of weeks ago I’m assessing every horses weight in my head and my first impression was Ballyandy would be at least levels with ‘Clyne’…TAPK’s pretty sharp when it comes to handicapping…You can imagine my disbelief when I’m scouring down the weights and see ‘Ballyandy’ nearer the bottom than the top.The handicapper will raise him after Saturdays romp for sure but every pound he gets from ‘Clyne’ only helps our cause and he gets 8 of them…Should be a spectacle.

    #1286486
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    Consul De Thaix a doubtful runner :'( :'(

    #1286492
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    Big blow – perils of ante-post! Sea of red on oddschecker, no official confirmation yet though?

    #1286501
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    £6 on Renneti @ 36.0 on BF just now. Think most layers are thinking he is not going to turn up off top weight ;-)

    Gave 6lbs to Jezki LTO to be a close second.

    Off to Spain for a week tonight so i’ll have to find some dive to watch the weekend racing. :bye:

    Good luck everyone

    #1286517
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    I remember putting Agrapart up on here last year and backing at 33/1 so a hard act to follow!

    There’ll be no 33/1 winner this year though as a couple up the top of the market look real solid to me…I can’t see it going to anything other than the two mentioned by many already…Clyne and Ballyandy and I think they will be first and second, with Song Light best of the rest in third…

    Clyne looks the likeliest winner to me as his overall form just looks much more solid and stronger than Ballyandy to me….so, no 33/1 winner this year…just the straight tri-cast!

    #1286523
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    Big G 5/1 Ballyandy is still big pal,if the ground deteriorates any more there could be more Non-runners and ‘Ballyandy’ could go off 5/2fav.I said ‘MTOY’ at 5/1 was still huge when he romped home too.

    Waited as long as I could TAPK, his odds are mainly shortening so I’ve taken the 11/2 before
    it disappears, I’m more than happy with that :good:

    There’s been money for ‘Clyne’ Big G and with the anticipated really soft ground it will be a 2 horse race,this fellow is 5lb well in on ratings for chasing home ‘The New One’,thats solid form but Nige will have his mark,however when I scoured the betting a couple of weeks ago I’m assessing every horses weight in my head and my first impression was Ballyandy would be at least levels with ‘Clyne’…TAPK’s pretty sharp when it comes to handicapping…You can imagine my disbelief when I’m scouring down the weights and see ‘Ballyandy’ nearer the bottom than the top.The handicapper will raise him after Saturdays romp for sure but every pound he gets from ‘Clyne’ only helps our cause and he gets 8 of them…Should be a spectacle.

    I think you’re spot on TAPK with the weight being a major factor. NTD had Ballyandy down to
    run in a maiden at Hereford a few weeks back, but pulled him out because …….

    “If he ran and won at Hereford, he would pick up a 5lb penalty”. He went on to say “He is handily
    weighted in the Betfair and he has ran most of his hurdle races over two miles except his last one.”

    Clyne looks a very decent horse, and ran a cracker behind The New One, but that was a tough race and
    he gave his all in a tough finish. I wonder if that was his best prep 3 weeks before this. If he is
    fully recovered from it, he will be a player but I think our boy receiving the 8lbs has, as you say,
    a significant advantage. I’m really looking forward to this race :good:

    #1286533
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    Consul De Thaix doubtful – out to 38’s on exchange. :negative:

    #1286539
    ham
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    Cdt out now

    #1286544
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    Ballyandy definitely for me here he surely has everything in his favour and I bet him at 13-2 earlier in the week and have had a top up at 5-1

    #1286553
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    Something smells a bit fishy here. Veinard stays in for Gordon Elliott and a certain young Mr Kennedy makes his way across the Irish Sea just for the ride

    #1286555
    Racingorchid
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    Have added BOITE e w to my original selection CLYNE . ON the face of it Boite looks badly handicapped and is ridden by amateur jockey but i just feel he is overpriced for a horse who may just represent a touch of class and the claim will make things a touch easier so have gone in while 4 places still available

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