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  • #1273699
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Will take place on the Friday, rather than the Saturday of The Hennessy meeting this year, it’s usually a good race for World Hurdle clues……..

    http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/cards/card.sd?race_id=662125&r_date=2016-11-25#raceTabs=sc_

    My main hope for The World Hurdle, Ptit Zig, gets an entry, so I’ll swerve this race for betting purposes. I’ve also got a few quid on The Romford Pele for Cheltenham, as unlikely a canidate as he appears, and for this race alone, he looks big at 12’s with the sponsors.

    Nice line up at this stage.

    #1273710
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    I will be at Newbury to see this on Friday, and wondered what anyone thought about Monksland possibly lining up in this. He seems to be in very good form of late and if he could jump a fence would have won more races than he has. Because of his tendency to clout a fence, it looks as though connections appear to be reverting back to hurdles. Is he in good enough form to claim a grade 2 over hurdles after all these years? Will he even line up on Friday? The 16’s with Bet365 looks tempting at the minute…

    #1273718
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    I got my ante post fingers burned a bit with the withdrawl of UNOWHATIMEANHARRY at
    Haydock on Saturday. It was however the right decision to withdraw him as lumping top weight around, in ground
    that could very well leave it’s mark, may well have taken too much out of him this early in his season. He’s
    my idea of the World Hurdle winner, and I’ve backed him at 25/1. He’s best priced 16/1 for that, and that’s
    still value.

    The betting has just opened for this and only 3 firms have priced them up. This is a better option than Haydock
    and I’m keeping an eye on the market. If someone doesn’t come up with better than Paddy Power’s 11/2, I’ll take
    some of that.

    #1273980
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    There’s quite a lot of depth to the 5-day entries for this but one or two look particularly interesting.

    The first is Maximiser. At eight years of age, he is still a horse of considerable untapped potential. I feel he has yet to show the full extent of his capabilities, over hurdles or fences, but is more than likely a stone better than his mark of 143. For that reason, I hope he takes up his entry in the handicap hurdle instead, paving the way for my other fancy for this…

    Snow Falcon has been in a rich vein of form this season. He has run three times on the flat, winning a maiden and running a very unlucky 5th in the November handicap at Leopardstown. He then showed too much for De Plotting Shed and Shaneshill at Navan over 2m 4f. He has always liked soft ground and has always looked the type who could improve for a trip of three miles (one win from one completed start at the trip). I said on here around this time last year that I didn’t think Snow Falcon was too far off being a World hurdle type and I will be very disappointed if he’s not up to getting involved here.

    #1274010
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    Tommy nice to see you here mate any views on the novice hurdle races at Cheltenham in the cheltenham thread will you open a thread about irish horses in DLAP

    And i think BALLYOPTIC Win this even though he fell last time

    #1274016
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    Just put this on my blog:

    There’s a nice race at Newbury tomorrow, won last year by the mighty Thistlecrack. There are no superstars in it this year, but there seems to be a nice each way bet in the shape of Ubak.

    The last time he ran at a a trip this long in the UK he won a decent race at Aintree (he had a poor run over this trip in France, but quite a few horses are upset by international travel). He has mixed chasing and hurdling but began this campaign with a nice run over hurdles (back at Aintree) where he conceded 10lbs and upwards to all rivals. The forecast soft ground should suit him and he looks excellent EW value at 14/1 – about half a dozen online bookies currently offer that price.

    #1274025
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    No bet race for me.

    I would have been quite keen on Snow Falcon had it been less testing ground. The obvious one given the ground/trip would be Unowwhatimeanharry but now he has been purchased by JP who knows what they will be doing tomorrow? The ground should suit Maximiser but the trip is an unknown.

    #1274055
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    Uknowwhatimeanharry and a litte saver on Snow Falcon for me.

    #1274058
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    Going to stick to my guns at not have a bet in this Tommy, but I’d be very keen on Maximiser, he’s still some price. Good luck with him.

    #1274060
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    MENORAH is a huge price at 8/1 !! If this was a chase he would be odds on!!

    Don’t miss this each way steal folks!! :good: :good:

    #1274062
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    There’s quite a lot of depth to the 5-day entries for this but one or two look particularly interesting.

    The first is Maximiser. At eight years of age, he is still a horse of considerable untapped potential. I feel he has yet to show the full extent of his capabilities, over hurdles or fences, but is more than likely a stone better than his mark of 143. For that reason, I hope he takes up his entry in the handicap hurdle instead, paving the way for my other fancy for this…

    Snow Falcon has been in a rich vein of form this season. He has run three times on the flat, winning a maiden and running a very unlucky 5th in the November handicap at Leopardstown. He then showed too much for De Plotting Shed and Shaneshill at Navan over 2m 4f. He has always liked soft ground and has always looked the type who could improve for a trip of three miles (one win from one completed start at the trip). I said on here around this time last year that I didn’t think Snow Falcon was too far off being a World hurdle type and I will be very disappointed if he’s not up to getting involved here.

    I’ll be gobsmacked. Navan’s a stiff track and he was giving good horses 5lbs. He’s giving Ballyoptic one less tomorrow and i think that one’s overrated at 159. The going is given as Soft on the RP website but its Soft, Good to Soft in places and should be Good to Soft, Soft in places by race time. Snow Falcon (related to 2000 Triumph winner Snow Drop ) is 6-1 now and if he’s not 7-2 / 4-1 down at the start then something’s amiss.

    #1274086
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    Ten minutes to the off. When I posted above and the book had just opened
    UNOWHATIMEANHARRY was 11/2 with PP. I hung off and got 13/2 with Betvictor.
    I’ve noticed that Ladbrokes still stand him 20/1 for the World Hurdle, that
    will disappear if he does well here if anyone wants that now. I had already
    taken him at 25s but I’ve topped up with the 20s today. I’m hoping I don’t
    have egg on my face shortly, but I think he is a real prospect.

    #1274089
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    Hey, nice one, Graham! That was most impressive. Must have a fair old chance now in the WH.

    Well done, too, DBR

    #1274090
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    Cheers Joe, I’m more than happy with that. His price has gone in the World Hurdle,
    generally between 5s and 7s, a couple of more obscure firms go 16s, but I doubt that.
    Well done to DBR too. Onwards to Cheltenham :good:

    #1274093
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    I didn’t see the race but all the RP says it that Snow Falcon was making headway, travelling strongly but then fell. Would it have been in with a shout ?

    I’m not Flanagan’s greatest fan. A strike rate of 6-7% over in Ireland is poor ( although he’s been riding better for Meade this season )

    #1274095
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    I didn’t see the race but all the RP says it that Snow Falcon was making headway, travelling strongly but then fell. Would it have been in with a shout ?

    I’m not Flanagan’s greatest fan. A strike rate of 6-7% over in Ireland is poor ( although he’s been riding better for Meade this season )

    Would have been in the first two. Too early to say anything more. Winner was the only one left who saw the race out.

    #1274100
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    I didn’t see the race but all the RP says it that Snow Falcon was making headway, travelling strongly but then fell. Would it have been in with a shout ?

    I’m not Flanagan’s greatest fan. A strike rate of 6-7% over in Ireland is poor ( although he’s been riding better for Meade this season )

    Impossible to say Mark, he was travelling well, but so were probably another 4 at that time. He
    came down at the 3rd last, it didn’t look a tired fall so he might have been in the mix. I think
    the winner looks a bit special, he won by 6 lengths but he was heavily eased so that could easily
    have been double that. Have a look at the race and see what you think

    http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/results/25-11-2016/newbury/result/753948/bet365-long-distance-hurdle-grade-2/video

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