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  • #443834
    Avatar photojbale
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    Stakes are returned RR77, you wouldn’t make a loss tipping Sprinter Sacre, you would gain half a point profit for every point so 1 point win = a return of 1.5 (0.5 profit) and 2 points would return 3 (1.0 profit) the same as the Winter and Summer series competitions. I backed Simenon EW @ 8’s, I lost my win stake but returned my EW stake to return 3 in total with a profit of 2. Good start though RR77, and you’re in pole position for pretty much every other comp, and well done Patrick for winning Ascot.

    #443839
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    P.S. If you look at Nathan’s returns his stakes are included in his workings out.

    Yeah, but I know what I’m doing…….. :lol:

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #443845
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    • Total Posts 33232

    If anyone wants to work out their profit/loss…

    Whether results are worked out with stakes in returns or not it still works out the same. It’s like working out your profit from bookmakers.

    My first 2 are at ROYAL ASCOT.
    RACE 1
    ESTIMATE (ASCOT GOLD CUP) 13/2 Betvictor (2 points win)


    RACE 2
    PRINCE OF JOHANNE (ROYAL HUNT CUP) 16/1 general (1 POINT EACH WAY)

    Either without stakes included in returns:
    2 points @ 13/2 wins +13 on the Ascot Gold Cup…
    Then -2 points for losing the Hunt Cup bet.
    13 –

    2

    = 11.

    Or with stakes included in returns:
    2 points @ 13/2 wins 13 + 2 points stake = 15 returned…
    But don’t forget by including stakes in return you also need to include them in the minus (stakes) column too.
    15 –

    4

    = 11.

    Value Is Everything
    #443852
    Avatar photoRedRum77
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    If anyone wants to work out their profit/loss…

    Whether results are worked out with stakes in returns or not it still works out the same. It’s like working out your profit from bookmakers.

    My first 2 are at ROYAL ASCOT.
    RACE 1
    ESTIMATE (ASCOT GOLD CUP) 13/2 Betvictor (2 points win)


    RACE 2
    PRINCE OF JOHANNE (ROYAL HUNT CUP) 16/1 general (1 POINT EACH WAY)

    Either without stakes included in returns:
    2 points @ 13/2 wins +13 on the Ascot Gold Cup…
    Then -2 points for losing the Hunt Cup bet.
    13 –

    2

    = 11.

    Or with stakes included in returns:
    2 points @ 13/2 wins 13 + 2 points stake = 15 returned…
    But don’t forget by including stakes in return you also need to include them in the minus (stakes) column too.
    15 –

    4

    = 11.

    Was going over this in my head and I should be on plus 11, the way it’s worked out is exactly as you described, Ginger.

    :oops: Sorry wasn’t trying to cheat, just not thinking straight when recording the 13 points profit.

    Thanks Ginger for tiding it up. :wink:

    #443894
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    P.S. If you look at Nathan’s returns his stakes are included in his workings out.

    Yeah, but I know what I’m doing…….. :lol:

    …… sometimes. :lol:

    Value Is Everything
    #443923
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    P.S. If you look at Nathan’s returns his stakes are included in his workings out.

    Yeah, but I know what I’m doing…….. :lol:

    …… sometimes. :lol:

    Agreed.

    I cocked up last night, took 8/1 about Ektihaam in the King George woke up this morning and he was 12/1. :oops:

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #443934
    Avatar photothehorsesmouth
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    King George (Flat!):
    Ektihaam 1 pt each-way @ 12/1 (William Hill)

    - 2

    #443983
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    All My quotes have run out
    so one new bet and one remaining:

    Northumberland Plate
    Tiger Cliff @ 9/2 BetVictor
    2 Points win

    18 Points now used
    including: still to run:
    Intello @ 7/1 to win the Arc – William Hill

    Profit so far +7

    :D

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #443984
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    All My quotes have run out
    so one new bet and one remaining:

    Northumberland Plate
    Tiger Cliff @ 9/2 BetVictor
    2 Points win

    18 Points now used
    including: still to run:
    Intello @ 7/1 to win the Arc – William Hill
    2 Points win

    Profit so far +7

    :D

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #444008
    Avatar photoHot Fuss
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    Kings Stand Stakes – Pearl Secret @ 14/1 (Bet Victor)  

    1 point E/W

    Ascot Gold Cup – High Jinx @ 10/1 (Bet 365)

    2 point Win

    Coronation Stakes – Maureen @ 16/1 (SkyBet)

    1 Point E/W

    Wokingham – Hallelujah @ 25/1 (BetVictor)

    1 Point E/W

    Staked  =

    Return =


    Total

    Northumberland Plate – Tominator @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)
    1 point E/W

    Staked =

    Return =


    Total = -5.5

    . 5 of 15/25. 0 of 8

    #444015
    Patrick2810
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    Already placed:

    Prince of Wales’s Stakes

    Paddy Power
    2 pts win

    Won +3.5 pts

    Ascot gold cup

    Paddy power
    1pt win

    Won +5.5pts

    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Lost -1pt

    Coronation stakes

    Paddy power
    2pts win

    Lost -2 pts

    Now:

    St Leger

    Libertarian 6/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Staked = -6
    Return = +9

    Total

    +3

    3 of 15-25 0 of 8

    Changing to:

    Already placed:

    Prince of Wales’s Stakes

    Paddy Power
    2 pts win

    Won +5.5 pts

    Ascot gold cup

    Paddy power
    1pt win

    Won +6.5pts

    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Lost -1pt

    Coronation stakes

    Paddy power
    2pts win

    Lost -2 pts

    Now:

    St Leger

    Libertarian 6/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Staked = -7
    Return = +12

    Profit = +5

    #444027
    Pat123
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    • Total Posts 3078

    Great comp Ginge

    Diamond Jubilee
    Reckless Abandon – 2pts win (12-1 Sportingbet)

    Add

    Wokingham
    York Glory – 1pt ew (25-1 Paddy Power)

    -4.00

    A 25-1 winner :shock: plus a non runner means an overall profit of + 29.25, 2 bets used.

    Northumberland Plate
    Homeric – 1pt ew (14-1 Bet365)

    Total +27.25

    #444037
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Already placed

    Toronado 11/4
    coral
    2pts win

    Al Kazeem 2/1
    William Hill
    2pts win

    Won 6pts returned

    Shamexpress 11/1
    boylesports
    1pt win

    Kings Stand
    Swiss Spirt 10/1
    boylesports
    1pt win

    Premio Loco 40/1
    William Hill
    1pt each/way

    Placed 11pts return

    Simenon 8/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Rite of Passage 7/1
    Sporting bet
    1pt win

    Arc
    Orfevre 6/1
    bet365, coral
    2pts win

    Champion Hurdle
    My Tent or Yours 6/1
    various
    2pts win

    World Hurdle
    At Fishers Cross 9/2
    skybet
    2pts win

    Cheltenham Gold Cup
    Sir Des Champs 8/1
    William Hill
    1pt win

    2000 Guineas 2014
    War Command 10/1
    Ladbrokes
    2pts win

    1000 Guineas 2014
    Wonderfully 33/1
    various
    1pt win

    1000 Guineas 2014
    Joyeuse 16/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Oaks 2014
    Wonderfully 40/1
    bet365
    1pt win

    King George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
    Ektihaam 8/1
    Paddy Power
    1pt each/way

    Coral Eclispe
    Al Kazeem 7/4
    betvictor, Stan James
    2pt win

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #444038
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    • Total Posts 32242

    Already placed

    Toronado 11/4
    coral
    2pts win

    Al Kazeem 2/1
    William Hill
    2pts win

    Won 6pts returned

    Shamexpress 11/1
    boylesports
    1pt win

    Kings Stand
    Swiss Spirt 10/1
    boylesports
    1pt win

    Premio Loco 40/1
    William Hill
    1pt each/way

    Placed 11pts return

    Simenon 8/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Rite of Passage 7/1
    Sporting bet
    1pt win

    Arc
    Orfevre 6/1
    bet365, coral
    2pts win

    Champion Hurdle
    My Tent or Yours 6/1
    various
    2pts win

    World Hurdle
    At Fishers Cross 9/2
    skybet
    2pts win

    Cheltenham Gold Cup
    Sir Des Champs 8/1
    William Hill
    1pt win

    2000 Guineas 2014
    War Command 10/1
    Ladbrokes
    2pts win

    1000 Guineas 2014
    Wonderfully 33/1
    various
    1pt win

    1000 Guineas 2014
    Joyeuse 16/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Oaks 2014
    Wonderfully 40/1
    bet365
    1pt win

    King George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
    Ektihaam 8/1
    Paddy Power
    1pt each/way

    Coral Eclispe
    Al Kazeem 7/4
    betvictor, Stan James
    2pt win

    Cheltenham Gold Cup
    First Lieutenant 16/1
    betvictor, boylesport
    1pt win

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #444044
    Avatar photoDanny
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    Backed So Far:

    Simenon

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Corals’

    Magician

    2pts WIN Evens ‘bet365’
    Queen Anne –

    Chil The Kite

    1pt E.W 66/1 ‘Various’

    Sole Power

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Hills’

    Camelot

    2pts WIN 11/4 ‘Stan James’
    Coral Eclipse –

    Camelot

    2pts WIN 6/1 ‘Various’

    Gordon Lord Byron

    2pts WIN 8/1 ‘Boyles’

    and Compulsory Races:

    1,000 Guineas –

    Wonderfully

    1pt E.W 33/1 ‘bet365’
    Oaks –

    Wonderfully

    1pt E.W 33/1 ‘bet365’
    World Hurdle –

    Zarkandar

    2pts WIN 8/1 ‘lads’

    -20

    Arc –

    St Nic Abbey

    1pt E.W 20/1 ‘Corals’

    -22

    #444045
    Avatar photoDanny
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    • Total Posts 790

    Backed So Far:

    Simenon

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Corals’

    Return +3

    Magician

    2pts WIN Evens ‘bet365’
    Queen Anne –

    Chil The Kite

    1pt E.W 66/1 ‘Various’

    Sole Power

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Hills’

    Return +14

    Camelot

    2pts WIN 11/4 ‘Stan James’
    Coral Eclipse –

    Camelot

    2pts WIN 6/1 ‘Various’

    Gordon Lord Byron

    2pts WIN 8/1 ‘Boyles’

    and Compulsory Races:

    1,000 Guineas –

    Wonderfully

    1pt E.W 33/1 ‘bet365’
    Oaks –

    Wonderfully

    1pt E.W 33/1 ‘bet365’
    World Hurdle –

    Zarkandar

    2pts WIN 8/1 ‘lads’

    -20

    Arc –

    St Nic Abbey

    1pt E.W 20/1 ‘Corals’

    -22

    11 selections -2 for each = -22
    Returns thus far = +17

    Current Profit

    #444053
    Patrick2810
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    • Total Posts 66

    Already placed:

    Prince of Wales’s Stakes

    Paddy Power
    2 pts win

    Won +5.5 pts

    Ascot gold cup

    Paddy power
    1pt win

    Won +6.5pts

    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Lost -1pt

    Coronation stakes

    Paddy power
    2pts win

    Lost -2 pts

    Now:

    St Leger

    Libertarian 6/1
    Ladbrokes
    1pt win

    Staked = -7
    Return = +12

    Profit =

    Adding

    Northumberland Plate

    Lieutenant Miller 12/1
    Bet Victor
    1pt E/W

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