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July 11, 2013 at 10:18 #445373
King George (Flat!):
Ektihaam 1 pt each-way @ 12/1 (William Hill)Arkle Trophy
Defy Logic 1 pt each-way @ 20/1 (BV & SJ)- 4
July 13, 2013 at 20:25 #445626Okay so collectively Ginger and Gord are odds on (deep), but hoping this is not a 2 horse race.
Since I’m only allowed 15 to 25 other races I’m going to go very carefully. My first 2 are at ROYAL ASCOT.
RACE 1
ESTIMATE (ASCOT GOLD CUP) 13/2 Betvictor (2 points win)
RACE 2
PRINCE OF JOHANNE (ROYAL HUNT CUP) 16/1 general (1 POINT EACH WAY)
Up and running with a 50% strike rate and a
13 POINTS PROFIT[/color:3r2oisq1]
Thanks to ESTIMATE. Will be on the outlook for race 3 but keeping my powder dry for now!
A slight correction to my score should read PLUS ELEVEN (+11) POINTS[/color:3r2oisq1]
Found my next bet THE JULY CUP[/color:3r2oisq1] ran JULY 13 @ NEWMARKET[/color:3r2oisq1]
SPLITTING MY 2 POINTS ON 1 pt win PEARL SECRET 8/1 Wh, PP, Lad & SHEA SHEA 6/1 SJ & Lad[/color:3r2oisq1]
My score in this competition is now +9 points after Shea Shea couldn’t deliver the goods and Pearl Secret didn’t line up.
July 14, 2013 at 16:33 #445676Already placed
Toronado 11/4
coral
2pts winAl Kazeem 2/1
William Hill
2pts win–
Won 6pts returned
Shamexpress 11/1
boylesports
1pt winKings Stand
Swiss Spirt 10/1
boylesports
1pt winPremio Loco 40/1
William Hill
1pt each/way–
Placed 11pts returned
Simenon 8/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winRite of Passage 7/1
Sporting bet
1pt winAl Kazeem 7/4
betvictor, Stan James
2pt win–
Won 5.50 pts returned
King George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
Ektihaam 8/1
Paddy Power
1pt each/way
3 placesShea Shea 6/1
Ladbrokes, boyles
2pt winArc
Orfevre 6/1
bet365, coral
2pts winChampion Hurdle
My Tent or Yours 6/1
various
2pts winWorld Hurdle
At Fishers Cross 9/2
skybet
2pts winCheltenham Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs 8/1
William Hill
1pt winCheltenham Gold Cup
First Lieutenant 16/1
betvictor, boylesport
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
War Command 10/1
Ladbrokes
2pts win2000 Guineas 2014
Kingman 14/1
various
the Extra 2pts win1000 Guineas 2014
Wonderfully 33/1
various
1pt win1000 Guineas 2014
Joyeuse 16/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winOaks 2014
Wonderfully 40/1
bet365
1pt winDerby 2014
Australia 25/1
various
1pt winSussex Stakes
Toronado 15/8
Paddy Power
2pts winSky Lantern 5/4
Paddy Power, bet365
2pts winSt Leger
Hillstar 10/1
betvictor
1pt each/way
3 placesBlackbeard to conquer the World
July 14, 2013 at 21:28 #445696Kings Stand Stakes – Pearl Secret @ 14/1 (Bet Victor)
1 Point E/W
Ascot Gold Cup – High Jinx @ 10/1 (Bet 365)
2 Point Win
Coronation Stakes – Maureen @ 16/1 (SkyBet)
1 Point E/W
Wokingham – Hallelujah @ 25/1 (BetVictor)
1 Point E/W
Northumberland Plate – Tominator @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)
1 Point E/W
July Cup – Gale Force Ten @ 10/1 (Ladbrokes)
1 Point E/W
Staked =Return =
Total +9.56 of 15/25 0 of 8
July 15, 2013 at 00:41 #445700Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe – Intello @ 7’s (WH) 2 point win
St Ledger – Libertarian @ 6’s (L) 2 point winAscot Gold Cup – Simenon @ 8’s 1 point E/W +3.00
Prince of Wales Stakes – Al Kazeem @ 15/8 (B365) 2 point win + 5.75
Champion Hurdle – Our Conor @ 5’s (WH) 2 point win
1000 Guineas – Joyeuse @ 16’s (Coral) 2 points win
Gold cup – Silviniaco Conti @ 10’s (WH) 2 point win
– Boston Bob @ 25’s (B365) 1 point each way
Falmouth – Sky Lantern @ 5/4 (B365) 2 points win -1July 15, 2013 at 00:54 #445702Profit now +3
Still to run & included in used points
Intello @ 7/1 to win the Arc – William Hill
2 points to winNow add:
Falmouth Stakes, Newmarket
Sky Lantern @ 5/4 BFred
<p style="color: #008000]2 Points to winSCORE SO FAR
+3
Less 2 points for Sky Lantern (Falmouth_
+1
Plus 10 Points Lethal Force – July Cup Winner
TOTAL SO FAR: +11
24 Points now used
Ginge or Nathan, please help
As I’ve included Intello @ 7/1 in my points used
if he is a non runner I presume I’ve already deducted
those points, is that right.
If he is lucky enough to win @ 7/1 I would just add
14 points, is that right..thanks it’s getting late.JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 15, 2013 at 00:59 #445703To help..
My workings out, on that query were on Page 10 of this thread..thanks JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 15, 2013 at 15:04 #44573824 Points used so far:-
Now:
Sussex Stakes – Goodwood
Dawn Approach @ 6/4 Corals
2 points to winStewards Cup – Goodwood
Moviesta @ 16/1 BetVic
2 points to winStill to run
Intello @ 7/1 for the Arc WH
2 points to win28 points now used
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 15, 2013 at 16:13 #445742Ginge or Nathan, please help
As I’ve included Intello @ 7/1 in my points used
if he is a non runner I presume I’ve already deducted
those points, is that right.
If he is lucky enough to win @ 7/1 I would just add
14 points, is that right..thanks it’s getting late.JacThat’s all right apart from the 14 points back if wins you get 16 back like in the bookies ie you’ve handed over your 2pts so you add them back after. So if you include stakes out then you need to add them to your return.
Intello 2pt win at 7/1
it wins return
overall profit 16 – 2 = 14
hope that’s clear, I’m confusing myself now.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 16, 2013 at 09:14 #445782I’ve read the rule book on page 1 Lord Ginger and there is nothing on there about race results which get appealed, which in my book makes the final decision on your head so may I ask if the Falmouth appeal result go’s Sky Lantern’s way do we who put her up on here get the points?
Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 16, 2013 at 21:30 #445835Ginge or Nathan, please help
As I’ve included Intello @ 7/1 in my points used
if he is a non runner I presume I’ve already deducted
those points, is that right.
If he is lucky enough to win @ 7/1 I would just add
14 points, is that right..thanks it’s getting late.JacThat’s all right apart from the 14 points back if wins you get 16 back like in the bookies ie you’ve handed over your 2pts so you add them back after. So if you include stakes out then you need to add them to your return.
Intello 2pt win at 7/1
it wins return
overall profit 16 – 2 = 14
hope that’s clear, I’m confusing myself now.
Thanks for that Nathan, so if Intello wins I add 16 points take away 2 and am left with +14 profit to my ongoing score..got it
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 16, 2013 at 22:09 #445839I think the best way to do it Jac is to add up all points staked then add up all points returned including stakes then whatever the difference is will be your score. Any non runners antepost will be classed as losers. Don’t think Ginge is including non runner no bet so it’s all in run or not. I’ll take a look at your bets tomorrow and see where you are.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 16, 2013 at 22:42 #445843This is what I make you on Jac, let me know if I’ve missed anything.
St. James’s Palace Stakes
Toronado 2 Points win
Queen Anne Stakes
Sovereign Debt 1 pt EW @
Kings Stand Stakes
Kingsgate Native 1 pt win @
Sole Power 1 pt win @ 10/1
Prince of Wales Stakes – Al Kazeem @ 2 pt win
Ascot Gold Cup
Times Up 2 pt win
Coronation Stakes
Sky Lantern @ 4/1 2 pts win
Diamond Jubilee Zanetto 1 pt EW
Wokingham
Nocturn 2 pts win
Falmouth Stakes Sky Lantern 5/4 2 Pt win
July Cup Lethal Force @ 5/1 2pts winNorthumberland plate – Tiger Cliff 2pt win –
Eclispe – Mukhadram 2pt win –
UnsettledSussex
Dawn Approach 6/4 2pt win
Stewards Cup
Moviestra 16/1 2pts win
Arc
Intello – 7/1 2 pt win
Total staked including unsettled – 28pts
Total return – 33pts
Total P/L –
I’ve included unsettled in points out so if they lose it’s already calculated if they win you need to take the stake back into total return ie Intello wins add the whole 16 pt returned.Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 17, 2013 at 22:14 #445898Race Portfolio number 5 "
SPLITTING MY STAKES BETWEEN1 pt win FLINTSHIRE (6/1) Boylesport, William Hill and Betfred
1 pt win TREVE (10/1) generally
Will count in total after event
July 17, 2013 at 22:32 #445899This is what I make you on Jac, let me know if I’ve missed anything.
St. James’s Palace Stakes
Toronado 2 Points win
Queen Anne Stakes
Sovereign Debt 1 pt EW @
Kings Stand Stakes
Kingsgate Native 1 pt win @
Sole Power 1 pt win @ 10/1
Prince of Wales Stakes – Al Kazeem @ 2 pt win
Ascot Gold Cup
Times Up 2 pt win
Coronation Stakes
Sky Lantern @ 4/1 2 pts win
Diamond Jubilee Zanetto 1 pt EW
Wokingham
Nocturn 2 pts win
Falmouth Stakes Sky Lantern 5/4 2 Pt win
July Cup Lethal Force @ 5/1 2pts winNorthumberland plate – Tiger Cliff 2pt win –
Eclispe – Mukhadram 2pt win –
UnsettledSussex
Dawn Approach 6/4 2pt win
Stewards Cup
Moviestra 16/1 2pts win
Arc
Intello – 7/1 2 pt win
Total staked including unsettled – 28pts
Total return – 33pts
Total P/L –
I’ve included unsettled in points out so if they lose it’s already calculated if they win you need to take the stake back into total return ie Intello wins add the whole 16 pt returned.Thanks Nathan, really nice of you to take the time to do that for me. All points losses and wins are 100% correct.
Now I don’t feel in such a muddle with my past and future bets and will keep a copy of your working outs and all future bets as I progress through the year.
Perhaps we should have a monthly round up of results otherwise we are going to have pages and pages of bets to troll back through.
Did Ginge say whether we get a return on Sky Lantern if she takes the Falmouth from Elusive Kate? Will Bookies pay out on Sky Lantern bets, if not then I suppose we have to forfeit the points really.
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...July 18, 2013 at 08:51 #445910Did Ginge say whether we get a return on Sky Lantern if she takes the Falmouth from Elusive Kate? Will Bookies pay out on Sky Lantern bets, if not then I suppose we have to forfeit the points really
If and it’s a big
IF
Sky Lantern gets awarded the race and Ginger does not give us the points I will take him to court to get the decision reversed………..
Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 18, 2013 at 21:25 #445945go easy on me as ante-post I’ve never done before.
queen anne, trumpet major 33/1 William hill 1pt ew
lost
king stand, heerat 33/1 sportingbet 1pt ew
lost
champion hurdle, jezki 12/1 William hill 1pt ew
Cheltenham gold cup, invictus 40/1 various 1pt ewAscot Gold Cup, top trip 25/1 Ladbrokes 1pt ew
placed
july cup, reply 50/1 bet victor 1pt ew
lost
sussex stakes, dawn approach 5/4 William hill 2pt win
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