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Okay so collectively Ginger and Gord are odds on (deep), but hoping this is not a 2 horse race.
Since I’m only allowed 15 to 25 other races I’m going to go very carefully. My first 2 are at ROYAL ASCOT.
RACE 1
ESTIMATE (ASCOT GOLD CUP) 13/2 Betvictor (2 points win)
RACE 2
PRINCE OF JOHANNE (ROYAL HUNT CUP) 16/1 general (1 POINT EACH WAY)
Up and running with a 50% strike rate and a
13 POINTS PROFIT[/color:2sh2wsoa]
Thanks to ESTIMATE. Will be on the outlook for race 3 but keeping my powder dry for now!
A slight correction to my score should read PLUS ELEVEN (+11) POINTS[/color:2sh2wsoa]
Found my next bet THE JULY CUP[/color:2sh2wsoa] ran JULY 13 @ NEWMARKET[/color:2sh2wsoa]
SPLITTING MY 2 POINTS ON 1 pt win PEARL SECRET 8/1 Wh, PP, Lad & SHEA SHEA 6/1 SJ & Lad[/color:2sh2wsoa]
1 point each way on ONE horse (All each way bets to be scored to ¼ odds)
Ginge, are the number of places set in stone? ie is it 4 places 16+ runners etc also what happens if someone backs each way ante post with 8 runners but on the day race cuts up to say 4?
Sorry for questions should have asked earlier but only just thought of it.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
All My quotes have run out
so one new bet and one remaining:Northumberland Plate
Tiger Cliff @ 9/2 BetVictor
2 Points win18 Points now used
including: still to run:
Intello @ 7/1 to win the Arc – William Hill
2 Points winProfit so far +7
Derby 2014
Hydrogen @ 33/1 Bet 365
2 points win20 points used
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...1 point each way on ONE horse (All each way bets to be scored to ¼ odds)
Ginge, are the number of places set in stone? ie is it 4 places 16+ runners etc also what happens if someone backs each way ante post with 8 runners but on the day race cuts up to say 4?
Sorry for questions should have asked earlier but only just thought of it.
The number of places are dependent on how many are in the race when the bet/tip was made, and type of race. I’m assuming Ginger wants normal placings only and no extra places like 5th place or in some cases 6th place counting.
Anyway places depend on number of runners at time of bet/tip struck. For example when User Friendly won her Oaks I had an Ante Post bet on the third horse (PEARL ANGEL) at 100/1 (ridden by Lester Piggott) 8 was declared to run then, but on the day of the race only 7 ran. I was paid out on my bet under the rules of Ante Post.
time of bet
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In addition to
always
1/4 place odds for each way (handicaps or non-handicaps) I think it’s best if we say:
Always first 4 for HANDICAPS of 16+ runners, always first 3 in handicaps of less than 16 runners.
NON-HANDICAPS always first 3 whatever the size of field.Also:
Bookmakers special offers will NOT count.
eg If a bookie offers a bigger price (say 2/1 about an Evens chance) for a limited time-span/amount of money a couple of weeks before the Cheltenham Festival the bigger price (2/1) will not be allowed.
Value Is EverythingAlready placed:
Prince of Wales’s Stakes
Paddy Power
2 pts winWon +5.5 pts
Ascot gold cup
Paddy power
1pt winWon +6.5pts
Ladbrokes
1pt winLost -1pt
Coronation stakes
Paddy power
2pts winLost -2 pts
Now:
St Leger
Libertarian 6/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winAdding
Northumberland Plate
Lieutenant Miller 12/1
Bet Victor
1pt E/WAdding
Coral Eclipse
Al Kazeem 13/8
Boylesports
2pts winStaked = -12
Return = +12Profit = 0
Thanks RedRum and Ginger, will put down the each way places at time of bet from now on incase any cut up.
Already placed
Toronado 11/4
coral
2pts winAl Kazeem 2/1
William Hill
2pts win–
Won 6pts returned
Shamexpress 11/1
boylesports
1pt winKings Stand
Swiss Spirt 10/1
boylesports
1pt winPremio Loco 40/1
William Hill
1pt each/way–
Placed 11pts return
Simenon 8/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winRite of Passage 7/1
Sporting bet
1pt winArc
Orfevre 6/1
bet365, coral
2pts winChampion Hurdle
My Tent or Yours 6/1
various
2pts winWorld Hurdle
At Fishers Cross 9/2
skybet
2pts winCheltenham Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs 8/1
William Hill
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
War Command 10/1
Ladbrokes
2pts win1000 Guineas 2014
Wonderfully 33/1
various
1pt win1000 Guineas 2014
Joyeuse 16/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winOaks 2014
Wonderfully 40/1
bet365
1pt winKing George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
Ektihaam 8/1
Paddy Power
1pt each/way
3 placesCoral Eclispe
Al Kazeem 7/4
betvictor, Stan James
2pt winCheltenham Gold Cup
First Lieutenant 16/1
betvictor, boylesport
1pt winBlackbeard to conquer the World
Already placed
Toronado 11/4
coral
2pts winAl Kazeem 2/1
William Hill
2pts win–
Won 6pts returned
Shamexpress 11/1
boylesports
1pt winKings Stand
Swiss Spirt 10/1
boylesports
1pt winPremio Loco 40/1
William Hill
1pt each/way–
Placed 11pts return
Simenon 8/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winRite of Passage 7/1
Sporting bet
1pt winArc
Orfevre 6/1
bet365, coral
2pts winChampion Hurdle
My Tent or Yours 6/1
various
2pts winWorld Hurdle
At Fishers Cross 9/2
skybet
2pts winCheltenham Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs 8/1
William Hill
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
War Command 10/1
Ladbrokes
2pts win1000 Guineas 2014
Wonderfully 33/1
various
1pt win1000 Guineas 2014
Joyeuse 16/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winOaks 2014
Wonderfully 40/1
bet365
1pt winKing George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
Ektihaam 8/1
Paddy Power
1pt each/way
3 placesCoral Eclispe
Al Kazeem 7/4
betvictor, Stan James
2pt winCheltenham Gold Cup
First Lieutenant 16/1
betvictor, boylesport
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
Kingman 14/1
various
the Extra 2pts winBlackbeard to conquer the World
4th bet as follows
St Leger
Hillstar – 1pt ew (10-1 Ladbrokes)
1/4 odds 1,2,3 placesTotal +25.25
Already placed
Toronado 11/4
coral
2pts winAl Kazeem 2/1
William Hill
2pts win–
Won 6pts returned
Shamexpress 11/1
boylesports
1pt winKings Stand
Swiss Spirt 10/1
boylesports
1pt winPremio Loco 40/1
William Hill
1pt each/way–
Placed 11pts return
Simenon 8/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winRite of Passage 7/1
Sporting bet
1pt winArc
Orfevre 6/1
bet365, coral
2pts winChampion Hurdle
My Tent or Yours 6/1
various
2pts winWorld Hurdle
At Fishers Cross 9/2
skybet
2pts winCheltenham Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs 8/1
William Hill
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
War Command 10/1
Ladbrokes
2pts win1000 Guineas 2014
Wonderfully 33/1
various
1pt win1000 Guineas 2014
Joyeuse 16/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winOaks 2014
Wonderfully 40/1
bet365
1pt winKing George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
Ektihaam 8/1
Paddy Power
1pt each/way
3 placesCoral Eclispe
Al Kazeem 7/4
betvictor, Stan James
2pt winCheltenham Gold Cup
First Lieutenant 16/1
betvictor, boylesport
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
Kingman 14/1
various
the Extra 2pts winDerby 2014
Australia 25/1
various
1pt winBlackbeard to conquer the World
Kings Stand Stakes – Pearl Secret @ 14/1 (Bet Victor)
1 Point E/W
Ascot Gold Cup – High Jinx @ 10/1 (Bet 365)
2 Point Win
Coronation Stakes – Maureen @ 16/1 (SkyBet)
1 Point E/W
Wokingham – Hallelujah @ 25/1 (BetVictor)
1 Point E/W
Northumberland Plate – Tominator @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)
1 Point E/W
Staked =Return =
Total +11.55 of 15/25 0 of 8
WYLDESYDE WROTE:
Royal Hunt Cup
Don’t Call Me….1pt ew (33/1 Coral)-2
Ascot Gold Cup
Last Train(20/1 WH) and Colour Vision(12/1 Coral)….1pt win on each-4
Wokingham
Royal Rock….1pt ew(33/1 Coral)-6
After three non-compulsory events score is
Next
Northumberland Plate
Biographer(14/1 Bet365) and Tominator(14/1 Bet365)….1pt win on each.
After four non-compulsory events score is +15.25Already placed:
Prince of Wales’s Stakes
Paddy Power
2 pts winWon +5.5 pts
Ascot gold cup
Paddy power
1pt winWon +6.5pts
Ladbrokes
1pt win2nd -1pt
Coronation stakes
Paddy power
2pts win3rd -2 pts
Now:
St Leger
Libertarian 6/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winAdding
Northumberland Plate
Bet Victor
1pt E/WN/R -2pts
Adding
Coral Eclipse
Al Kazeem 13/8
Boylesports
2pts winStaked = -11
Return = +12Profit =
6/25 Races
0/8 Compulsory Races4th bet as follows
St Leger
Hillstar – 1pt ew (10-1 Ladbrokes)
1/4 odds 1,2,3 placesTotal +25.25
5th bet
King George
Ektihaam – 1pt ew (10-1 Stan James)Total +23.25
All My quotes have run out
so one new bet and one remaining:Northumberland Plate
Tiger Cliff @ 9/2 BetVictor
non runner -2
2 Points winincluding: still to run:
Intello @ 7/1 to win the Arc – William Hill
2 Points winProfit so far +7
To add:
Coral Eclipse
Mukhadram @ 6/1 B365
2 Points to win20 Points now used in total
After Non Runner Tiger Cliff in The Northumberland Plate
Profit+5
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Already placed
Toronado 11/4
coral
2pts winAl Kazeem 2/1
William Hill
2pts win–
Won 6pts returned
Shamexpress 11/1
boylesports
1pt winKings Stand
Swiss Spirt 10/1
boylesports
1pt winPremio Loco 40/1
William Hill
1pt each/way–
Placed 11pts return
Simenon 8/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winRite of Passage 7/1
Sporting bet
1pt winArc
Orfevre 6/1
bet365, coral
2pts winChampion Hurdle
My Tent or Yours 6/1
various
2pts winWorld Hurdle
At Fishers Cross 9/2
skybet
2pts winCheltenham Gold Cup
Sir Des Champs 8/1
William Hill
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
War Command 10/1
Ladbrokes
2pts win1000 Guineas 2014
Wonderfully 33/1
various
1pt win1000 Guineas 2014
Joyeuse 16/1
Ladbrokes
1pt winOaks 2014
Wonderfully 40/1
bet365
1pt winKing George V1 and QE Diamond Stakes
Ektihaam 8/1
Paddy Power
1pt each/way
3 placesCoral Eclispe
Al Kazeem 7/4
betvictor, Stan James
2pt winCheltenham Gold Cup
First Lieutenant 16/1
betvictor, boylesport
1pt win2000 Guineas 2014
Kingman 14/1
various
the Extra 2pts winDerby 2014
Australia 25/1
various
1pt winJuly Cup
Shea Shea 6/1
Ladbrokes, boyles
2pt winBlackbeard to conquer the World
St James Palace Stakes
1 point EWJammy Guest 66/1 BET365 -2 (Running Total -2)
Quuen Anne – Declaration Of War – 2 points win +17 (RT +15?)
King’s Stand – Reckless Abandon 2 points win -2 (RT +13)
Prine Of Wales – The Fugue 1 point EW +2.30 ? (RT +15.30)
Royal Hunt Cup – Prince Of Johanne – 1 point EW -2 (RT +13.30)
Ascot Gold Cup – 1pt EW Saddler’s Rock 8/1 Stan James -2 (RT +11.30)
War Command 2000 Guineas 10/1 Stan James 2pts win
Eclipse – Mars – 8/1 Corals – 2pts win
2014 1,000 Guineas – Joyeuse- 2pts win 16/1 Ladbrokes
July Cup -Shea Shea 2pts win 6/1 (Ladbrokes)
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