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Not by any means, one of the bigger “Nationals”, but always a sign that the jumps is slowly getting back into gear.
Competitive as ever, and as usual, depite trying not to, getting distracted by a few of JP’s.
<b>Carlingford Lough</b>, and <b>Quantitativeeasing</b> did me proud in The Galway Plate last time, and both look of interest once again. Preference of the 2 is for QE. The change of scenery seems to have worked wonders, and after calling him a few names in the past, he came good at Galway, running a blinder. The step up to 3 miles shouldn’t be a problem, in fact you could say he’s been crying out for it, and he still looks well treated. Was delighted with Carlingfords win at Galway, and if he wins with his huge hike in the weights, then it would be an outstanding effort.
Main fancy is for <b>Double Seven</b> though, just ahead of QE. Been following him closely, and looks as if he’s going places, touch wood. Has really dug out his wins, and he’ll have to be tough to land this. 14’s looks very fair, and if he can handle the rise in the weights, then he might emerge as a possible candidate for Aintree.
The other JP horse that interests me is <b>Like Your Style</b>. Very disappointing of late, and a bit difficult to make a case for, but he’s back down to his last winning mark, and would be no surprise to see him bounce back here. 20’s looks big.
Last years runner up, <b>Questions Answered</b> is difficult to ignore, and he’s got to land a decent prize at some point. Higher in the weights now, but will at least be fresh. Even fresher will be <b>Gift of Dgab</b>, who’s not been seen for well over a year. The step up to 3 is a bit of an unknown, but if he’s not too rusty, then he looks the type to figure in these type of races. Certainly of interest, with, of course, erm, questions to answer <!– s:roll: –>
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Excellent write up VTC, I also prefer QE of the Galway Plate front two. Here’s what I wrote in the DLAP section:
In the Kerry National tomorrow the horse I like is Questions Answered. Although he is rated 7 lbs higher than last year when he was 2nd, he carries the same weight on 10-5. His would need to improve on his last three runs but before that he produced a good run in the Paddy Power at Cheltenham and an placed effort in the Munster National off 130. The ground looked desperate there today and if the rain continues it could be heavy tomorrow. If it dries then there’s a chance it could be tacky, thus turning the race into the stamina test that Questions Answered needs. Eric McNamara has an exceptional record in the race and it is likely Questions Answered has been aimed at this race for some time. I expect he’ll be ready to rock and roll so the lack of a recent run doesn’t overly concern me. At 11/1 with Paddy Power paying 5 places each-way, he’ll do form me.
Good luck with Double Seven.
I like the look of Shot From The Hip. He won very easily last time out at Killarney off a mark of 129 and has had 8lbs put on for that as he was impressive. He has won before off a mark of 135 so I don’t think that 137 will be that much of a problem.
Very much in form and will like the ground. Plenty of 14-1 available and has to have a good shout.
VTC, I like the look of Double Seven too, my only worry with him is that his improvement in form over the past three runs has been on good ground. If he handles it being soft,he would be a strong contender.
Oh, I missed this thread[was over on Daily Lays and Plays]. Fancied Chartreux so relieved he ran well for a while then faded
. Again, lowest weight wins [which you can’t back ante post in case it doesn’t get in]. Amazing run from the horse that came second, though, given the weight he was carrying. Winner ran well enough in the JLT. Nice to see Dessie Hughes win, especially when JP has thrown everything bar the kitchen sink at the race [assume JP hasn’t bought him since Cheltenham].
The winner was a reserve, allowed in today as the irish rules permit. I don’t know the price of the horse which came out, but what if you took a price on a horse early today, and then a 100/1 shot came out allowing the 16/1 winner in.
If you had backed the second horse would there be some sort of adjustment, like the opposite of a Rule 4?
Sorry for the crap wording, hopefuly some leaned individual can deduce what a mean.
The winner was a reserve, allowed in today as the irish rules permit. I don’t know the price of the horse which came out, but what if you took a price on a horse early today, and then a 100/1 shot came out allowing the 16/1 winner in.
If you had backed the second horse would there be some sort of adjustment, like the opposite of a Rule 4?
Sorry for the crap wording, hopefuly some leaned individual can deduce what a mean.
I would imagine somewhere in the rules of Bookmaking with regards to Irish Racing there would be a rule saying something along the lines of that is the risk you take due to the reserves being allowed to run. Certainly not fair as you state when it’s the other way round we get Rule 4’d.
Given the way it was backed in I was expecting the JP reserve Wise Oscar to win, that certainly needs looking at as he withdrew one of his other runners to get Wise Oscar in a few hours before the race.
Anyway with regards to the race thought the winner was very impressive, anyone know what his long term plans for the season are? National perhaps?
Agree also that the second ran a very good race off top weight could be another one to look out for.
Thank god the jumps season is almost upon us.
The winner was a reserve, allowed in today as the irish rules permit. I don’t know the price of the horse which came out, but what if you took a price on a horse early today, and then a 100/1 shot came out allowing the 16/1 winner in.
If you had backed the second horse would there be some sort of adjustment, like the opposite of a Rule 4?
Sorry for the crap wording, hopefuly some leaned individual can deduce what a mean.
I would imagine somewhere in the rules of Bookmaking with regards to Irish Racing there would be a rule saying something along the lines of that is the risk you take due to the reserves being allowed to run. Certainly not fair as you state when it’s the other way round we get Rule 4’d.
Given the way it was backed in I was expecting the JP reserve Wise Oscar to win, that certainly needs looking at as he withdrew one of his other runners to get Wise Oscar in a few hours before the race.
Anyway with regards to the race thought the winner was very impressive, anyone know what his long term plans for the season are? National perhaps?
Agree also that the second ran a very good race off top weight could be another one to look out for.
Thank god the jumps season is almost upon us.
Cheers for the response – what a garbage system!
I think some bookmakers will bet without the reserves if the reserves are not priced up at the time when the bet was struck. Here’s Sky Bet’s wording of the rule:
Reserves
In races including reserve horses, any bets taken before a reserve horse has been declared to run and if the reserve was not priced up at the time the bet was placed, then any of these bets will be settled on the result ‘without the reserve runner(s)’. Each-way bets settled on the result ‘without the reserve runner(s)’ will be based on the number of runners, excluding reserves, that start the race. In races where reserves are priced but do not run, no Rule 4 (Deductions) will be applicable.Bloddy hell thats interesting. So if I’m reading that right, people who backed the runner up before the winning ‘reserve’ was actually in the field are holding a winning ticket!
I bet there are more than few people holding Carlingford Lough tickets who aren’t aware of that, I certainly had no idea.
He won that very nicely, if I thought he was going to get in, he would have been a very confident tip from me, knew he’d win with a bit to spare
Carlingford the one to take out of the race for me though, huge hike in the weights, and was running on well at the end, very interesting.
The reserve system is turning into a farce in Ireland. How can you have a bet on the morning of the race when you don’t know what’s in. I ignored WSL this morning as it looked unlikely that third reserve would get a run. Really think that the cut off should be midnight the previous day.
The reserve system is turning into a farce in Ireland. How can you have a bet on the morning of the race when you don’t know what’s in. I ignored WSL this morning as it looked unlikely that third reserve would get a run. Really think that the cut off should be midnight the previous day.
I agree entirely.
Mind you, it does stop situations like this years Ebor where so many horses didn’t run on the day and we at least get the full quota of runners. People get so tunnel visioned about all of JP’s horses that sometimes another horse sneaks under the radar. What is frustrating is that all the owners and trainers are probably phoning around finding out who is and isn’t running and we’re having to second guess it all.
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