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  • #434078
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Looks like Prince De Beauchene is a non runner, with stress fracture.

    #434079
    honeysdad
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    they certainly are dropping out this year ill say 32

    vf

    HMM i was tempted to put 32 but thought i’d be optimistic :)

    #434082
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    I’ve got to believe there’ll be 40. Those at the bottom of the handicap tend to pull out assuming they have no chance of getting in, whereas this year even the bottom weight could just scrape in. I won’t go so far as to say there will be 4 reserves however.

    #434084
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    Well PDB out too now.

    100+ on the machine.

    Lee

    #434088
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    Looks like Prince De Beauchene is a non runner, with stress fracture.

    Bloody hell, the Wylie’s can’t catch a break can they? Looked like sending out the first three in the market at one point. Now only left with one.

    #434089
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    I’ve got to believe there’ll be 40. Those at the bottom of the handicap tend to pull out assuming they have no chance of getting in, whereas this year even the bottom weight could just scrape in. I won’t go so far as to say there will be 4 reserves however.

    I don’t think you will find too any dropping out at the bottom unless they are injured Pete ,they get their entry money back if eliminated.

    #434106
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    yes priince de beachene is out

    vf

    #434107
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    updated PDB removed

    vf

    #434126
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    With Beshabar out and Poker De Sivola struggling to get his ground or even get into the race, my new selection is

    Chicago Grey

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    He is well-handicapped on his best form, stays (won the four-miler) and was unluckily wiped out last year. I need to watch the race again to see how he was handling the fences until that point but am quite keen. Gordon Elliot is adept at training horses for this race.

    #434128
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    Chicago Grey

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    He is well-handicapped on his best form, stays (won the four-miler) and was unluckily wiped out last year. I need to watch the race again to see how he was handling the fences until that point but am quite keen. Gordon Elliot is adept at training horses for this race.

    I’ve seen quite a few tips for Chicago Grey over the past couple of weeks but I cannot fancy him at all. He only got as far as the 5th last year so it’s hard to say how he took to the fences. Outside of that though, his form over the past two years has been shocking really. A win at big odds on heavy going in a small field last time is the only semblance of form he brings to the race. Since going off 11/2 favourite for the Scottish Grand National in 2011 he has run in eleven races, including that one, failing to complete on three occasions and been beaten a total of 264 Lengths in the eight races he completed. That’s pretty dismal form and although Mon Mome won after being beaten a million miles previously, he was 100/1 while Chicago Grey is sitting at 12/1 with some firms. When you consider that Cappa Bleu was 4th last year, ran a great trial and is available at the same odds it makes you realise that there are many more mysteries for man to resolve before we consider the meaning of life. ps He’s grey as well

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #434129
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Don’t you think these poor runs (apart from the Scottish National I suppose) can be put down to the horse being nursed through the season with Aintree in mind?

    It seems notable to me that his best performance in the period you mention came after the Aintree weights had been published. I think Gordon Elliot is known as a wily trainer capable of plotting such a preparation.

    My main worry is jumping though. He jumped the first five ok last year, but that is not much to go on, as you say. He has had a couple of mishaps with regulation fences which make me worry that he could be the type to suffer from poor concentration.

    #434130
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    To be fair to Chicago, he was definitely brought down last year, rather than falling himself!

    #434131
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/21849158

    lion na bernaia now only 50/50 to run

    on the chicago grey topic he was brought down last year so wasn;t his fault

    vf

    #434140
    msercs
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    Having re watched last years race I am convinced Swing Bill is going to run a stormer. A horse fell right in front of him at the chair and he still found his feet and kept galloping on. As the only Pipe runner hoping Timmy Murphy takes the ride and at 80/1 6 places NRNB with Bet Victor that is a great EW bet.

    Also Denis O Regan confirmed to ride Big Fella Thanks so another for my list!

    Martin

    #434141
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    I think Quel Esprit has to be the most overpriced runner at the moment

    #434142
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    torfino bay and Wyck Hill are out

    vf

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    torfino bay and Wyck Hill removed

    vf

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