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Just bad command
There are many factors for "Horses For Courses"
Heres a few more
Many horses who stable overnight do actual sulk, Take Monets  Garden prime example and well spotted by his trainer,
9 times out of 10 horses travelling get exited, In fact its starts many many hours before that, they start getting exited when they are being platted up, thats why some trainers wait till they get to the course to do it not at home. Horses actually can tell in the yard when they are going racing that day, they know because the routine from first thing in the morning is different, they know they are going racing, they get nervous and actually expend quite alot of energy. It actually can just take the edge of them. So the longer they travel the more energy the use.
Many tracks were actually measured many many years ago, and actually have not been measured since, mostly national hunt i hasten to add, alterations to running rails etc etc I would bet some 2, 2.4,3.1 distances actually arnt
Undulations pay a major part also, like you just cannot compare Kempton with the likes of Leicester
<br>Horses stride pattern differs immensely long striding horses are just not suited to tight tracks such as fontwell, folkestone,plumpton etc, yet a short coupled horse will handle them much better, because they are far more balanced.
Some courses will suit front running horses, rather than hold up horses, again mainly due to the fact that undulating courses ,especially those with downhills as well ,make its far more difficult to make up ground and keep the horse balanced
Thats just a few that springs to mind<br>
And why is that David please explain
I am sorry Flat Season……whoops Flatseasonlover………..FSL….lol
I am not here to upset, far from it, all I intended to do was to state facts, if that has been taken as aggressive then I apologise, also if my english is not up to university level I apologise for that as well.
In racing you will find many people who thru their many years of involvement ,have very strong ideas about things the detest, more often bought about by bad experiences  either seen or gained through working in racing, and this is one I have always felt strongly about.<br>When all the dust settles, punters have gone home, either moaning about trainers, jockeys and owners, 9 times out of 10 they are talking through their pockets.<br>When the lad or lass taking the love of their life home, yes i mean the horse, all you care about is its welfare, good run or bad, and to see any horse abused is just totally and utterly wrong.
I Have spent many a night applying liniment to wheal marks, and although I agree whips are better through more pading, whips are there, as you said in your own response, there for encouragement and direction not for abuse
I have tried hard to explain why I feel strongly, I hope now that maybe more here  might understand my stand on this issue
I repeat I was not intentionally meaning to upset, just laying down my thoughts
Not at all………could not give a damn Flash what you think…………..lol
Flat season just read your profile and i see to you over qualified in horse racing so i will bow down to your superior knowledge…..not….<br>I have not come here to undermine anybodys opinion ,or upset, just to state my own opinion.<br>I have been with racehorses since i was six, done my time in the yards, treated sick and lame horses, spent many an hour with tendons, come back with bridles and empty horseboxes, ridden over fences, held horses when they have had to be destroyed, basically i have seen both sides of the fence…………………..all I am saying is………i did not like ,what i saw, did you??????
<br>Underscore i did not say ban the whip
Think i will leave it there
and guys i will not be joining the pony club, at 50 i do not think i will be accepted.<br>I will not be hiding behind the sofa.<br>I will not be finding another sport.
I have joined, I am here,……………………get use to it
well Mr Johnson been waiting for you to rear your head…………….so which rule am I breaking in your eyes oh yee of great knowldge and wisdom………….lol
Lovely lady…..whatever you may have been doing in your arm chair was not certainly watching the race…just went and watched the replay……his ears where flat on his neck…..and funny old character………he is 6 and run 16 times in his whole life…..if your going to comment please make it factual……or wake up on the sofa
memo to big mick..really do not need to.if i wish to express i will……or have i misunderstood the idea of forum and open expression
What sort of reply is that drone or have you been down the pub
Thanks for more yet sympathetic replies, i do not wish to bring up the whip issue yet again……but..havn ridden over 500 races here over the sticks i cannot abide abuse…..and if anyone here thinks that his ride was not either he is talking out of his pocket or could not care less about the horse….i say wrongly or rightly he should of at least had 5 days and it should of been Cheltenham………….and i offer this ur in the gold cup….i bet……if his whip is as machine gun as his old mans mouth then god protect all horses……that should cause a stir…………lol
then perhaps ap you should put ha ha after your comments……then your comments make be taken in the manner they were written
Oh what a smart remark ap……..I am talking about one instance….yesterday….not in general…please keep your smart arse remarks to yourself if you have nothing constructive to say
Red head the rules also state as i laid out in my first message…..no whip in either position above shoulder height….which if you watch the replay it clearly was.
Also to naps answer…..yes i realise he is now going to Ayr, but that was a decision made after the race, he was still in the Arkle untill the race had finshed.
Still its nice to at least find one concerning person on this subject,,,,thankyou red head
Found plenty….did you watch the race………..he was galloping up and down on the same spot after the last
Fair point , but i think your find most trainers would prefer a little left in the locker, and it is rather straying from my original point, his whip use was excessive to say the least, maybe not in frequency, but certainly in its ferocity.
Get Betfair to run a book on the best turned out at Ascot…Then a seperate one for the horses!!!
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