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punter, we are having a discussion, not a war, I respect your views, but feel stronghly that, in this instance you are wrong, surely the need to retire is alittle over the top?<br>And please note the capital M in my name.(and no space)
that must be the shortest retirement ever
its like the old joke, a punter goes up to the bookie at Kempton and asks for 600/400 against the second fav in a 2 runner race, after accepting the bet the bookie then goes 7/4 so the punter has another 400 on, and the same thing happens again the bookie goes an even bigger price, eventualy the punter has had 5 grand on, and the bookie thinking to help the punter, tells him he is wasting his money as he owns the horse, to which the punter replies" be a long race then cos I own the other"
punter, you dont need a forum, you mistakenly thought that 40k matched was abnormal, i told you that 40k was not abnormal 2 hours ago, within the last hour a fellow forum member who actually works for betfair has tried to explain to you that 40k is not abnormal, and yet in the post immediately above this you still insist that it is abnormal. <br>There is no hope for you.
glenn, i am surprised you even felt the need to reply, just because someone has bet aloser and had a moan. Lets get on to important things, like the continual mistakes made by the staff at betfair, today I had a position on an the fav in the hunter chase, which I was actively traded in running, all of a sudden, BANG the market is suspended<br>2] Cricket the other night advertised as in running I again had position which I would have liked to trade, market suspendeda nd NOT REOPENED at off.<br>These are both mistakes by staff at betfair at which no explaination has been forthcoming, any comment?
a good as clue as any for laying horses is that little old pricewise box in the post, get your finger along the top line and follow until it gets to LAD, then bring your finger down until you find a price highlighted in bold type, congrats you have now found a horse to lay.<br>It is not infallible, but it is definately better than laying lingfield favs because there is a lot of activity on betfair.
today in the kempton first i bet desert 200@ 4.7, and<br>350 @2.7 ichi beau, i am positive this was better than laying irbee, as i won more money, so maybe not all the time is it better to lay than bet..<br>You are probally right if there are a lot of runners like the last race today, when there were nearly 20 runners
larry i dont think they use overround on betfair, that is why you get better prices tha n the bookies give(mostly)
larry we dont need to lay the forum horse, if DL runs it in a 2 runner race we can bet THE OTHER HORSE. Or even if there weere 4 or five runners we could bet ALL THE OTHER HORSES, wouldnt this be better than laying?
punter c4, 40k is not out of the ordinary for a race at Lingfield, betfair average 1.5 million a day around 80000 a race. I myself laid 2.4 for 600 so there is 1200 that wasnt " skullduggwery" as you say.<br>
got to agree with the points you make, have seen plenty of instances where there is no difference between the prices of betfair and track prices, as for the RP prices being different I put it down to the fact that they are compiled probally 18 hours before, so it is reasonable to expect differences in the morning,<br>Also some smaller bookmakers actually lay racing post prices where there are no other early prices, so another possibly is that sometimes the RP may print an estimated sp which, shall we say, they dont really think it will be.<br> A good e.g of this is last weeks bumper winner Rhinestone Cowboy, the world and his dog knew about this one 2 or 3 days before, but the RP still predicted an Sp of 6/1
according to c4 platinum had 40k matched i dont think this is out of the ordinary, so if you was going to do any tracking you woyld have to have guidelines as what constituted out of the ordinary, although the overnight instance seems strange, platinum duke price was forecast 11/8 in the racing post, so 6/4 seems stingy by betyfair standards.
larry, all well and good joining in, but they dont all get beat plenty of them win, at the smaller meeting especially in the middle of the week, betfair take more money on a lot of races than is actually wagered at the track, so betfair prices are probally more reflective of an horses chance than the actual price from the race track.<br>
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